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Do you really think Sanderson is the one responsible for Mary Sue-ing Egwene?? lilltempest Send a noteboard - 25/09/2011 07:37:59 AM
I don't think there's much to say about Egwene, which is one of the reasons the board is so quiet these days. Once you've single-handedly destroyed the Black Ajah, there's really not much more to say. Its like when a beautiful flower blossoms... attacking it and saying that its an ugly flower doesn't really get much attention, just funny looks.

That Sanderson went and Mary Sue-d Egwene?


She was a Mary Sue long before Sanderson took over. Other characters have always been bent to fit around the image of her supposed greatness, behaving so out of character that it was almost laughable. And throw in the fact that Sanderson himself said that RJ wrote Egwene in tGS (which was nothing but a Mary Sue story of, "I can take spankings and still stubbornly insist that I should rule the world and everyone here is too stupid and incompetent to actually put my in my place";), then I hardly think it can be put on Brandon's head.

Now, admittedly, he has bought into RJ's mantra of "EGWENE IS GOD!! BOW DOWN!!" and repeated the typical equation that everyone is stupider in her presence and thinks that her farts smell like roses, but the man is working with what he was given. He couldn't very well go against RJ's wishes and have someone smack her down like she deserves when he has Harriett breathing down his neck and RJ's notes dictate how her story must proceed (also, doesn't it say something that RJ busted ass to get Egwene's sections down in tGS but didn't give a rat's ass about Rand and left if all for Brandon?).

I guess the funny part to me is that people were suddenly declaring what an obnoxious bitch she was in ToM, as though she were somehow behaving any differently than she had the entire series. Her fans, of course, think she's perfect and awesome and excuse every single bitch move she's made, but those who were sitting the fence were clearly twisting her past actions to excuse her as well since that's clearly what RJ wanted readers to do. Once Sanderson took over, however, it was easier for those on the fence to see what an atrocious character she really is...then blame it on Sanderson.

The thing is, though, she's the same in ToM as she has always been - she just now has the power she's always craved and is in the position to smite everyone in her path instead of just Nynaeve, Rand, and the morons who thought they could control her when they put her into power. Once a nasty, cold-hearted bitch who craps all over her friends, always a nasty, cold-hearted bitch who craps all over her friends.
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*Goes off to read M/M slashfic* *NM* - 22/09/2011 05:09:13 PM 433 Views
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Did you forget the link? - 24/09/2011 07:35:30 PM 853 Views
My bad, thanks. - 25/09/2011 01:17:52 AM 844 Views
Meh - 24/09/2011 08:45:23 AM 848 Views
Re: Meh - 24/09/2011 10:54:05 AM 913 Views
He did say SINGLE handed, and that hand was Verins. So no, no credit for the series-ruiner - 25/09/2011 01:14:01 AM 944 Views
Oh please - 26/09/2011 05:58:24 PM 719 Views
That is an excellent argument. - 28/09/2011 12:42:46 PM 908 Views
Re: That is an excellent argument. - 28/09/2011 01:13:30 PM 835 Views
Re: That is an excellent argument. - 29/09/2011 01:03:59 PM 790 Views
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I don't think the two are comparable... - 29/09/2011 06:41:25 PM 820 Views
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Seriously? That's your theory for why the board is so quiet these days? - 24/09/2011 09:24:16 PM 992 Views
Why not? That's mine. - 25/09/2011 01:24:45 AM 923 Views
Do you really think Sanderson is the one responsible for Mary Sue-ing Egwene?? - 25/09/2011 07:37:59 AM 862 Views
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The Egwene worship is beginning to amuse me instead of just disgusting me... - 26/09/2011 07:29:04 PM 1374 Views
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I'm pretty sure you've already posted this one before. *NM* - 24/09/2011 06:35:25 PM 383 Views
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True that. *NM* - 25/09/2011 05:21:20 AM 383 Views
That was actually a fairly interesting read... nice effort. *NM* - 24/09/2011 09:21:05 PM 505 Views
I didn't even read that... - 25/09/2011 03:18:09 AM 771 Views
To be fair - 26/09/2011 05:54:45 PM 805 Views
Awesome. And all true. Poor Rand. *NM* - 25/09/2011 07:00:47 AM 436 Views

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