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I know and there are not any elves or fairies *NM* random thoughts Send a noteboard - 01/09/2011 03:03:53 PM
(I reread Graendal's chapter yesterday and it was very upsetting - I did not remember what happened to her)

No offence but I think Robert Jordan (and most of his fans) was a misogynist. (Or he thought WoT can't compete mainstream fantasy anymore?)

I talk about Shaidar Haran's "punishments". WoT is not an R rated fantasy, so it's really disturbing to read about rapes.

And what makes it worst: many reader claim that these rapes are "fair and square", because they are evil people. Define me this term, evil! Rand, Egwene, Perrin etc. are evil too, they are killed many innocent people, started wars etc.

OK, let's say: they deserved it. But Shaidar Haran did not rape male Forsakens. So, where is the famous Jordan-balance?

What do you think about this?
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No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT beelaa - 26/08/2011 02:12:46 PM 2452 Views
Re: No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT Night Walker - 26/08/2011 02:57:25 PM 1474 Views
Yes, I hate rape and I hate how it was used in this story. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 26/08/2011 03:31:16 PM 2328 Views
Missing the point... Cannoli - 26/08/2011 06:05:40 PM 1630 Views
No, but maybe you are missing the point of what a good villain can do. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 31/08/2011 05:48:47 PM 1154 Views
I think that is a little unfair Sidious - 26/08/2011 09:26:30 PM 1358 Views
Re: I think that is a little unfair RugbyPlayingAshaman - 31/08/2011 06:50:02 PM 1019 Views
The rapists are evil, and are presented as such in the books. Go soak your head. Cannoli - 26/08/2011 05:57:21 PM 1512 Views
You make the point I keep coming back to. Seriana Sedai - 26/08/2011 08:54:46 PM 1180 Views
Ah nice, that is a good point that I hadn't thought of beetnemesis - 28/08/2011 04:04:20 AM 1065 Views
I think the argument that RJ is misogynistic because Rand has 3 GFs is more tenable. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/08/2011 06:47:26 PM 1363 Views
I think giving his hero 3 GFs more likely proves that RJ is a misandrist Cannoli - 26/08/2011 09:14:17 PM 1175 Views
Who said he liked Rand? *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 27/08/2011 05:31:22 PM 504 Views
none taken Yunalesca - 26/08/2011 09:09:51 PM 907 Views
Misogynist? Really. Fanatic-Templar - 26/08/2011 10:38:10 PM 1130 Views
Re: No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT DomA - 26/08/2011 10:49:26 PM 3724 Views
Re: No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT mmcleod - 27/08/2011 05:14:06 AM 1354 Views
This thread is funny. *NM* Nargs - 30/08/2011 06:29:24 AM 452 Views
Jordan was going to call the series "The Wheel of Rape" until Tor axed the idea. *NM* Tom - 31/08/2011 02:19:25 AM 583 Views
I know and there are not any elves or fairies *NM* random thoughts - 01/09/2011 03:03:53 PM 572 Views
No Fairies? Because there are enough of us who are reading the series! *NM* Evil_Monkey - 01/09/2011 05:02:52 PM 452 Views
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