But, yes, I hated rape being used as a form of punishment by Shaidar Haran and the Dark One. It downplays the importance of the female Forsaken while simultaneously making the ultimate evil of the Shadow look completely brutish and petty. There are more imaginative punishments that beings with these types of powers should be able to inflict. So failures among the male Forsaken are punished with a slap on the wrist and ironic punishments while the females are raped and tortured? No wonder Lanfear tried to get rid of the Dark One and made her own plans. It's the ultimate glass ceiling. But the entire WoT universe is preoccupied with arbitrary traits conferred by sex, and there is a lot of biological determinism involved, so when critically reading the series, it really seems gross and sophomoric.
I don't think we've had much time to see the male Forsaken punished. We're only really left with Demandred, and he's not the type who makes mistakes - he's cautious by nature. The others are all dead.
The important thing is that although SH is a myrddraal, he's also a man. Fades have been raping women since the Breaking. It makes sense that he would do the same to a female Forsaken who has failed.
I would hazard to guess that he would physically harm a male Forsaken, much like the Fade did to Carridin. I could imagine him beating someone like Demandred to a pulp and then not allowing him Healing. We just don't get that chance. The males are too hasty, and are all but dead, and the women generally work from the shadows, so when they fail they run away and he waits for them.
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This message last edited by Sidious on 26/08/2011 at 09:26:45 PM
No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT
- 26/08/2011 02:12:46 PM
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Yes, I hate rape and I hate how it was used in this story.
- 26/08/2011 03:31:16 PM
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Missing the point...
- 26/08/2011 06:05:40 PM
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No, but maybe you are missing the point of what a good villain can do.
- 31/08/2011 05:48:47 PM
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I think that is a little unfair
- 26/08/2011 09:26:30 PM
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The rapists are evil, and are presented as such in the books. Go soak your head.
- 26/08/2011 05:57:21 PM
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I think the argument that RJ is misogynistic because Rand has 3 GFs is more tenable.
- 26/08/2011 06:47:26 PM
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I think giving his hero 3 GFs more likely proves that RJ is a misandrist
- 26/08/2011 09:14:17 PM
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*NM*
Jordan was going to call the series "The Wheel of Rape" until Tor axed the idea. *NM*
- 31/08/2011 02:19:25 AM
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I know and there are not any elves or fairies *NM*
- 01/09/2011 03:03:53 PM
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No Fairies? Because there are enough of us who are reading the series! 
*NM*
- 01/09/2011 05:02:52 PM
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*NM*
- 01/09/2011 05:02:52 PM
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