Re: No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT
Night Walker Send a noteboard - 26/08/2011 02:57:25 PM
(I reread Graendal's chapter yesterday and it was very upsetting - I did not remember what happened to her)
No offence but I think Robert Jordan (and most of his fans) was a misogynist. (Or he thought WoT can't compete mainstream fantasy anymore?)
I talk about Shaidar Haran's "punishments". WoT is not an R rated fantasy, so it's really disturbing to read about rapes.
And what makes it worst: many reader claim that these rapes are "fair and square", because they are evil people. Define me this term, evil! Rand, Egwene, Perrin etc. are evil too, they are killed many innocent people, started wars etc.
OK, let's say: they deserved it. But Shaidar Haran did not rape male Forsakens. So, where is the famous Jordan-balance?
What do you think about this?
No offence but I think Robert Jordan (and most of his fans) was a misogynist. (Or he thought WoT can't compete mainstream fantasy anymore?)
I talk about Shaidar Haran's "punishments". WoT is not an R rated fantasy, so it's really disturbing to read about rapes.
And what makes it worst: many reader claim that these rapes are "fair and square", because they are evil people. Define me this term, evil! Rand, Egwene, Perrin etc. are evil too, they are killed many innocent people, started wars etc.
OK, let's say: they deserved it. But Shaidar Haran did not rape male Forsakens. So, where is the famous Jordan-balance?
What do you think about this?
I think you are sensationalizing this. First, Fades appear to have a “taste” for females. So it’s not a surprise the SH may only target female Forsaken with this treatment. Second, there is nothing to say that it won’t/can’t happen to a male Forsaken , it just hasn’t yet because when they screwed up, Rand has killed them.
You could argue that SH is the DO himself, in which case he isn’t likely to have a sexual preference, so he should rape male Forsaken for misbehaving, but as I said, there is nothing to say that it won’t happen.
This message last edited by Night Walker on 26/08/2011 at 03:01:57 PM
No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT
- 26/08/2011 02:12:46 PM
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Re: No offence! The most disgusting aspect of WoT
- 26/08/2011 02:57:25 PM
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Yes, I hate rape and I hate how it was used in this story.
- 26/08/2011 03:31:16 PM
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Missing the point...
- 26/08/2011 06:05:40 PM
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No, but maybe you are missing the point of what a good villain can do.
- 31/08/2011 05:48:47 PM
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The rapists are evil, and are presented as such in the books. Go soak your head.
- 26/08/2011 05:57:21 PM
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I think the argument that RJ is misogynistic because Rand has 3 GFs is more tenable.
- 26/08/2011 06:47:26 PM
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I think giving his hero 3 GFs more likely proves that RJ is a misandrist
- 26/08/2011 09:14:17 PM
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*NM*
Jordan was going to call the series "The Wheel of Rape" until Tor axed the idea. *NM*
- 31/08/2011 02:19:25 AM
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I know and there are not any elves or fairies *NM*
- 01/09/2011 03:03:53 PM
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No Fairies? Because there are enough of us who are reading the series! 
*NM*
- 01/09/2011 05:02:52 PM
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*NM*
- 01/09/2011 05:02:52 PM
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