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Interesting Werthead Send a noteboard - 23/09/2009 12:16:38 AM
1. Tor insisted this week once again that there are no pre-release copies, and that Jason is the only one who has access to the book.


Tor are not Orbit. Orbit are releasing the book across all Commonwealth territories and, although Tor will sell vastly more copies, Orbit theoretically have access to a bigger market. Orbit are sending a very few selected review copies to a few selected bloggers, although as far as I know apart from myself just about none of them are regular WoT fans and will be reviewing the book before release. I'm not sure if Ken or Pat fall into that category either (I imagine they'll be dealing with Tor). My review copy isn't expected until maybe a week before the street-date anyway, around the time the book will be hitting the shelves anyway.

2. That pre-release distribution of the book is a copyright infringement which Tor are serious about nailing down on. RAFO will become a focal point for every person who has messed with Tor, even if they have done so unwittingly.


I'm pretty sure it isn't a copyright violation at all. Issuing a book early happens all the time and is not a major problem unless it's a huge amount of time early (such as the month-early release of CoT in the UK in December 2002, which I know RJ was unhappy with). KoD was also on the shelves more than a week before the official release date (in the UK anyway), as was NEW SPRING. Unless you're JK Rowling or Dan Brown, enforcing street dates can be a really bad idea, if not handled correctly as Bantam UK recently discovered when they tried to enforce the DUST OF DREAMS release date with the net result bookshops refused to stock it until a week AFTER release as they couldn't have multiple 1,000-page hardcovers taking up their stock rooms and they missed out on the series possibly hitting (the lower reaches of) the bestseller lists for the first time.

3. Even if there are decent reviews, there are bound to be hoaxes and lies which will damage our reputation as posters or as a place with worthy content.


I think you are blowing this out of proportion. I was here (well, on Wotmania) when KoD came out and was a lurker at the time CoT did and don't recall the issues you outline here. I remember a few lame jokes which were obviously people having a laugh, but I do not recall anyone attempting to carry out a deliberate campaign of misinformation. I do recall the point-by-point, 100% accurate spoiler review someone posted about two weeks before KoD came out.

4. Risking our reputation and exposing the board to all manner of trash is not worth it when the book is coming out in 5 weeks anyway. We've had the Prologue and the first chapter, and to go beserk for the rest of the book is utterly pointless.


As others have said, no-one has to read the thread. I remember people regretting reading the KoD thread at the time (including me, as I didn't realise it would be a blow-by-blow summary of the book), but that's up to them. And as has been said, it's a specifically spoiler free situation.
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Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 08:40:03 AM 2141 Views
Yes. - 20/09/2009 11:56:22 AM 1487 Views
Sorry wrong place. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:31:27 PM 727 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 01:12:18 PM 1390 Views
No. *NM* - 20/09/2009 01:26:48 PM 731 Views
No, I prefer to see them after the 27th. - 20/09/2009 01:42:38 PM 1208 Views
They don't have to read them if they don't want to *NM* - 21/09/2009 01:54:30 AM 751 Views
NO! *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:05:47 PM 770 Views
No *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:22:15 PM 881 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:08:41 PM 785 Views
Yes please! *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:40:41 PM 777 Views
NO *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:16:55 PM 747 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:17:32 PM 793 Views
Re: Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 05:33:49 PM 1264 Views
I just hate getting interupted. even if I'm at work *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:13 PM 722 Views
Sorry wrong place *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:54 PM 716 Views
We need them to maintain the spike in activity. - 20/09/2009 05:34:14 PM 1364 Views
YES. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:44:48 PM 748 Views
Can anyone who voted no explain why? - 20/09/2009 05:51:51 PM 1241 Views
Yes, why not? - 20/09/2009 06:18:42 PM 1593 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:30:54 PM 725 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:39:34 PM 700 Views
Yes. I see no reason not to. *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:08:47 PM 709 Views
No, I'll just read them and then go regretting it *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:18:27 PM 749 Views
Yes! - 20/09/2009 07:30:59 PM 1273 Views
yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:46:37 PM 772 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 08:34:03 PM 1176 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:08:42 PM 700 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:17:51 PM 729 Views
Yes- Give ppl the option to see the reviews *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:03:27 AM 717 Views
Yes *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:33:13 AM 675 Views
I vote yes. - 21/09/2009 04:21:28 AM 1346 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 06:12:37 AM 1252 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 09:32:56 AM 1238 Views
Yes. Don't click the link if you don't want to read it. *NM* - 21/09/2009 02:39:16 PM 771 Views
No - 21/09/2009 06:15:19 PM 1318 Views
I think you missread the rules... - 21/09/2009 08:24:22 PM 1783 Views
so you want to give the admins all kinds of extra work? - 22/09/2009 02:16:56 AM 1324 Views
I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 05:06:13 AM 1489 Views
I hadn't thought about all that, you should have made some kind of pros and cons list - 22/09/2009 08:53:39 AM 1439 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 11:45:26 AM 1320 Views
So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:03:16 PM 1234 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:16:57 PM 1441 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:42:55 PM 1654 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 01:20:58 PM 1305 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 02:39:55 PM 1469 Views
As I mentioned elsewhere - 22/09/2009 02:51:00 PM 1154 Views
I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 05:44:18 PM 1275 Views
Re: I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 06:25:20 PM 1203 Views
Good to know. - 22/09/2009 10:19:57 PM 1425 Views
I'm shitfitng to no too. Hope more people change their votes. - 22/09/2009 10:34:22 PM 1505 Views
Re: Good to know. - 22/09/2009 11:01:35 PM 1293 Views
Interesting - 23/09/2009 12:16:38 AM 1408 Views
How much is that infamous COT review to blame? - 24/09/2009 05:01:29 AM 1192 Views
Well, Rand IS a transvestite - not exactly a spoiler anymore. - 22/09/2009 08:29:12 AM 1231 Views
No, no, no, no, no! *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:31:22 PM 679 Views
You're going to ban/forbid spoiler filled reviews? Weak. - 22/09/2009 08:26:15 AM 1266 Views
Ever hear of Napster? - 22/09/2009 12:11:02 PM 1171 Views
But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 12:36:35 AM 1408 Views
Sounds right to me. - 23/09/2009 12:27:57 PM 1511 Views
Thank you for the clarification. - 23/09/2009 07:04:13 PM 1192 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 07:33:11 PM 1552 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 27/09/2009 02:41:11 AM 1369 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 28/09/2009 07:53:46 PM 1247 Views
Baloney. The two are not related at all. *NM* - 23/09/2009 07:00:47 PM 716 Views
Yes, as long as no-spoiler policy is employed. *NM* - 23/09/2009 12:04:41 AM 706 Views
No *NM* - 25/09/2009 07:05:03 AM 684 Views

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