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Re: I had no idea about these legalities. DomA Send a noteboard - 22/09/2009 06:25:20 PM
I really didn't. I assumed if someone had a copy there was a reason, like they were supposed to share their opinion.


That's precisely the point of ARCs, and nowadays publishers love to use non-traditional medias, like Blogs, fan sites etc. Tons more ARC are distributed around, and leftovers are often given away in contests weeks before the book is released etc.

And if Tor is sending out copies before Oct. 27 after all, there's no harm no foul in publishing reviews - that would be why they send copies to people in the first place. But for TGS, it appears every reviewer who asked have been told "Sorry, no ARC printed for TGS, we can get you a copy for release day".

When reputable people/bloggers with established ties to publishers (incl. a few experienced reviewers like Larry from OF and Ken of nethspace, Pat's Fantasy Blog, Adam from Wertzone etc.) start posting reviews, the odds jo-blo poster on a MB has also gotten a copy somehow will be increased a little, but for now you can count on those reviews being fake or from copies obtained illegally.

Normally, there would be more than Jason having a review up by this point. Back in the day, TL, Wot Encyclopedia, Wotmania, Tarvalon.net would all have non spoiler reviews up by this point, and some online media would publish theirs too. There may well be more reviews down the line for all I know, but it's also well known how much Harriet, Brandon and co. dislike spoilers - an this ought to be respected. Some love to use spoilers and half-spoilers as a mean to generate hype, but it's never been the case with WOT. Back in August Brandon didn't even want to mention in Q&A vague stuff he was aware had been officially released - even which two story lines were the focus of the book. He knew it was around, even told people who wanted to know where to look for the info, but he wouldn't speak of it openly (nor does he do on his blog, where he's extremely careful about the information he shares - no doubt knowing very well it's gonna be everywhere after that, and considered legitimate to spread without warning).

The secrets of the book being spread around would not harm Tor's sales, but they sure would piss off Harriet, Brandon etc. Most fans want to discover those for themselves in the book itself - not by accident coming on a MB, whether the spoilers are real or invented by morons with nothing better to do than pulling starved fans' legs.

We waited five years, what's five more weeks before we can judge TGS for ourselves and with a fresh eye anyway?
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Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 08:40:03 AM 1609 Views
Yes. - 20/09/2009 11:56:22 AM 952 Views
Sorry wrong place. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:31:27 PM 419 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 01:12:18 PM 883 Views
No. *NM* - 20/09/2009 01:26:48 PM 428 Views
No, I prefer to see them after the 27th. - 20/09/2009 01:42:38 PM 740 Views
They don't have to read them if they don't want to *NM* - 21/09/2009 01:54:30 AM 421 Views
NO! *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:05:47 PM 471 Views
No *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:22:15 PM 524 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:08:41 PM 472 Views
Yes please! *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:40:41 PM 480 Views
NO *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:16:55 PM 425 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:17:32 PM 473 Views
Re: Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 05:33:49 PM 757 Views
I just hate getting interupted. even if I'm at work *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:13 PM 417 Views
Sorry wrong place *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:54 PM 434 Views
We need them to maintain the spike in activity. - 20/09/2009 05:34:14 PM 855 Views
YES. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:44:48 PM 443 Views
Can anyone who voted no explain why? - 20/09/2009 05:51:51 PM 779 Views
Yes, why not? - 20/09/2009 06:18:42 PM 1049 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:30:54 PM 402 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:39:34 PM 412 Views
Yes. I see no reason not to. *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:08:47 PM 417 Views
No, I'll just read them and then go regretting it *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:18:27 PM 413 Views
Yes! - 20/09/2009 07:30:59 PM 766 Views
yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:46:37 PM 471 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 08:34:03 PM 712 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:08:42 PM 421 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:17:51 PM 422 Views
Yes- Give ppl the option to see the reviews *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:03:27 AM 412 Views
Yes *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:33:13 AM 388 Views
I vote yes. - 21/09/2009 04:21:28 AM 782 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 06:12:37 AM 763 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 09:32:56 AM 744 Views
Yes. Don't click the link if you don't want to read it. *NM* - 21/09/2009 02:39:16 PM 448 Views
No - 21/09/2009 06:15:19 PM 828 Views
I think you missread the rules... - 21/09/2009 08:24:22 PM 1289 Views
so you want to give the admins all kinds of extra work? - 22/09/2009 02:16:56 AM 795 Views
I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 05:06:13 AM 935 Views
I hadn't thought about all that, you should have made some kind of pros and cons list - 22/09/2009 08:53:39 AM 873 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 11:45:26 AM 796 Views
So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:03:16 PM 770 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:16:57 PM 932 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:42:55 PM 1168 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 01:20:58 PM 761 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 02:39:55 PM 950 Views
As I mentioned elsewhere - 22/09/2009 02:51:00 PM 690 Views
I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 05:44:18 PM 758 Views
Re: I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 06:25:20 PM 658 Views
Good to know. - 22/09/2009 10:19:57 PM 849 Views
I'm shitfitng to no too. Hope more people change their votes. - 22/09/2009 10:34:22 PM 994 Views
Re: Good to know. - 22/09/2009 11:01:35 PM 800 Views
Interesting - 23/09/2009 12:16:38 AM 880 Views
How much is that infamous COT review to blame? - 24/09/2009 05:01:29 AM 646 Views
Well, Rand IS a transvestite - not exactly a spoiler anymore. - 22/09/2009 08:29:12 AM 768 Views
No, no, no, no, no! *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:31:22 PM 393 Views
You're going to ban/forbid spoiler filled reviews? Weak. - 22/09/2009 08:26:15 AM 727 Views
Ever hear of Napster? - 22/09/2009 12:11:02 PM 713 Views
But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 12:36:35 AM 853 Views
Sounds right to me. - 23/09/2009 12:27:57 PM 946 Views
Thank you for the clarification. - 23/09/2009 07:04:13 PM 767 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 07:33:11 PM 1003 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 27/09/2009 02:41:11 AM 808 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 28/09/2009 07:53:46 PM 733 Views
Baloney. The two are not related at all. *NM* - 23/09/2009 07:00:47 PM 448 Views
Yes, as long as no-spoiler policy is employed. *NM* - 23/09/2009 12:04:41 AM 400 Views
No *NM* - 25/09/2009 07:05:03 AM 408 Views

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