So much of it is serialized these days, though. I like being able to read a discrete story and know it's not going to just explode into a multi-book series that will be finished, with luck, at some point before my grandchildren graduate from college.
The authors just seem to get more and more full of themselves the less they advance their plots. Look at Jordan's idiotic "read and find out" (no offense to the site name) to virtually any question from fans, whether he needed to or not. It was so ubiquitous that when he actually did answer it was a huge surprise.
As for the "level" of Jordan or Martin, it's very, very low. If they make you think, it's more of a credit to your own personal insight than to any reputed talent that they have.
I always enjoyed fantasy as a diversion, something light to read from time to time. The problem is that people like Jordan and Martin are killing even that joy. If that is what fantasy is becoming, then I'll just read the serious literature that provides worthwhile ideas and not waste time on genre lit.
The authors just seem to get more and more full of themselves the less they advance their plots. Look at Jordan's idiotic "read and find out" (no offense to the site name) to virtually any question from fans, whether he needed to or not. It was so ubiquitous that when he actually did answer it was a huge surprise.
As for the "level" of Jordan or Martin, it's very, very low. If they make you think, it's more of a credit to your own personal insight than to any reputed talent that they have.
I always enjoyed fantasy as a diversion, something light to read from time to time. The problem is that people like Jordan and Martin are killing even that joy. If that is what fantasy is becoming, then I'll just read the serious literature that provides worthwhile ideas and not waste time on genre lit.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
A Dance of Dragons will influence A Memory of Light?
28/07/2011 03:30:30 PM
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It's impossible for nothing to happen in AMoL.
28/07/2011 07:30:02 PM
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Oh, you're so cute in your innocence!
02/08/2011 06:14:37 AM
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Re: A Dance of Dragons will influence A Memory of Light?
28/07/2011 07:37:24 PM
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Actually, there is growing discontent, even among those who've defended Martin.
07/08/2011 11:05:33 PM
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Those who says that nothing happens in ADWD really need to read CoT
29/07/2011 12:02:23 PM
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Watching grass grow is better than reading CoT, so it's not saying much for ADWD *NM*
30/07/2011 02:10:12 AM
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A Dance of Dragons is hardly filler. *shrugs* *NM*
31/07/2011 04:43:58 PM
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Agreed. It could be argued that more happens in the epilogue of ADWD than all of CoT. *NM*
01/08/2011 01:27:58 AM
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I regret wasting much of July reading it, so I respectfully disagree.
02/08/2011 04:41:39 AM
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I do request that you don't lump ALL of fantasy into those two authors
02/08/2011 06:08:21 AM
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You are completely overlooking his point, however.
02/08/2011 06:12:45 AM
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F*** you, you idiot. *NM*
02/08/2011 06:13:48 AM
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At least he didn't ramble for five thousand words before actually making a point. *NM*
03/08/2011 11:04:06 PM
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And a direct reply:
02/08/2011 06:25:28 AM
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Wait... You want intelligent meaningful books, but you're demanding action?
02/08/2011 06:52:00 AM
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I think the issue is conflating fantasy with the multi-volume epics than anything I'd disagree with
03/08/2011 04:05:12 AM
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Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come.
02/08/2011 06:24:47 AM
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Re: Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come.
07/08/2011 10:40:41 PM
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Re: Oooo! A smart one! She reads forums! Thank heavens an expert has come.
19/08/2011 12:07:24 PM
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Okay I'm not reading any of the replies in this thread until I finish ADwD, but I just wanted to say
10/08/2011 01:49:11 PM
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