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Yes! I agree! newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 09/07/2011 02:30:21 PM
... is that RJ is as "sexist" with men as he is with women. What you said about women being irrational and men just rolling their eyes and going along is actually how women in the series view men, and less how men handle women.

I'm not stating gender relations in WoT are normal or well-adjusted. Far from it. But nor do I think they're a symptom of RJ being sexist. Instead, I think its a partially successful attempt at describing an unequal society akin to the middle ages, but with the women as the dominating gender.


The stereotyping occurs on both sides - which makes it equal, in my book - and people are often mocked or put down as appropriate (e.g., Lan's "noble" rejection of Nynaeve, then acting like she's his woman; Perrin straightening up around Faile, then slouching, then she laughs at him).

Thank you for putting Belals Girl and her stereotypes about the stereotypes in the series in their place! =P
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What;s your favorite RJ comment on the sexes? newyorkersedai - 06/07/2011 02:04:56 AM 1988 Views
Women cannot admit they were wrong and will partner up with their worst enemy against a man over it. djwilson300 - 07/07/2011 12:20:16 AM 1055 Views
I remember a thread started by Phil Reborn long ago... Fanatic-Templar - 07/07/2011 05:21:12 AM 1017 Views
Oh, heaven, I've been there! newyorkersedai - 08/07/2011 12:04:35 AM 1071 Views
what you've never heard of "bros before hos"? darius_sedai - 08/07/2011 08:03:47 PM 958 Views
Agreed ßelals Girl - 08/07/2011 11:38:59 PM 894 Views
Yeah, but before you've even broken up? *NM* newyorkersedai - 09/07/2011 02:30:51 PM 494 Views
Re: Yeah, but before you've even broken up? darius_sedai - 09/07/2011 03:13:57 PM 991 Views
That's not exactly what the incident was about. Fanatic-Templar - 10/07/2011 07:29:14 PM 1003 Views
Yes, and the way Egwene expressed her thoughts on the matter is quite disturning too Zeratul - 11/07/2011 12:56:59 AM 1004 Views
That wasn't what I was refering to ßelals Girl - 12/07/2011 07:26:59 PM 914 Views
certainly not by today's standards, but to play devil's advocate here... darius_sedai - 12/07/2011 09:04:07 PM 982 Views
I don't think any of his comments on the sexes are accurate for real people RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/07/2011 02:53:29 PM 1081 Views
I largely disagree newyorkersedai - 07/07/2011 11:59:52 PM 1076 Views
I agree with you about stereotypes LadyLorraine - 08/07/2011 01:13:22 AM 918 Views
Hahah, he did? Details, please. beetnemesis - 08/07/2011 05:07:01 AM 892 Views
No Deadsy - 08/07/2011 06:10:05 AM 1046 Views
It depends on who the 6 women and his dual girlfriends were. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 08/07/2011 03:15:14 PM 998 Views
Agreed ßelals Girl - 08/07/2011 07:46:30 PM 1015 Views
*NM* fionwe1987 - 08/07/2011 09:18:44 PM 473 Views
Hi fionwe1987! *NM* ßelals Girl - 08/07/2011 11:36:48 PM 473 Views
Hi! The reason I rolled my eyes... fionwe1987 - 09/07/2011 06:31:20 AM 1068 Views
Yes! I agree! newyorkersedai - 09/07/2011 02:30:21 PM 1120 Views
I shall never recover *NM* ßelals Girl - 09/07/2011 07:23:11 PM 419 Views
I think your heart will go on =p *NM* newyorkersedai - 09/07/2011 07:27:28 PM 451 Views
Re: Hi! The reason I rolled my eyes... ßelals Girl - 09/07/2011 07:42:48 PM 1056 Views
Re: Hi! The reason I rolled my eyes... Fanatic-Templar - 10/07/2011 07:35:37 PM 928 Views
Re: Hi! The reason I rolled my eyes... ßelals Girl - 12/07/2011 07:30:07 PM 1077 Views
Much of Faile's "punishing" was just Perrin's super-nose. Fanatic-Templar - 13/07/2011 03:36:03 AM 938 Views
that's not why stereotypes exist LadyLorraine - 09/07/2011 04:18:45 AM 1019 Views
Re: that's not why stereotypes exist newyorkersedai - 09/07/2011 02:27:24 PM 1193 Views
*throws caution to the wind* darius_sedai - 09/07/2011 03:19:42 PM 920 Views
whether positive or negative, stereotypes all come from the same place nigelgoboom - 12/07/2011 04:29:23 AM 916 Views
That's why I said that's the easy way out. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 14/07/2011 02:39:38 PM 862 Views
Cosmopolitan = artificial and unnatural; Your situation is the aberration - his is more the norm *NM* Cannoli - 13/07/2011 01:09:00 AM 548 Views
Re: Cosmopolitan = artificial and unnatural; Your situation is the aberration - his is more the norm darius_sedai - 16/07/2011 01:02:37 PM 1165 Views
blood and ashes! *NM* nigelgoboom - 13/07/2011 01:24:18 AM 445 Views
You have to make sure your husbands do what you want, while making them think it was their idea. CatherineSedai - 21/07/2011 04:28:39 AM 1008 Views
And I can buy that, which is why I'm surprised at how many claimed they were inaccurate. Seriously, newyorkersedai - 26/07/2011 01:44:28 AM 1003 Views
I always thought it was relatively accurate. Onarishma - 21/07/2011 11:36:41 PM 946 Views
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