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It definitely wasn't common. Gher Send a noteboard - 11/05/2011 03:45:45 PM
Some noble channeler who has lived for 600 years and knows they're about to die? Servant of All and whatnot.

If you think you are "about" to die, would you give up your sight or your hearing just to allow someone to see or hear "better"? Unless you would be sure you are going to die in something like 30 seconds, I won't ever believe you would.


Honestly, I can't say I never would, circumstances depending. And regardless, there are people out there who would.

Just look at the people who donate kidneys and other vital organs. A huge risk that in many cases only adds a few years to someone else's life. And since transplant surgery is so risky, many donors are in their prime, not right at the close of their lives.

A 600+ year old channeler has seen non-channelers live and die, knows they've lived a full life and could want to give something back after being so fortunate. A noble one, who has fully embraced the "servant of all" philosophy could very well make a sacrifice, knowing that their gift can last thousands of years.

I wonder if a way was figured out to forcibly take a channeler's ability and make angreal. I think Elayne mentions one of the angreal from Ebou Dar felt wrong/creepy. If nothing else the Shadow surely tried it the old fashioned way and tortured someone into "volunteering".

There might be something like that, it would make sense. But that's definitely not the only way to do that, nor the most common one.


No, definitely not. But probably more common during the War of Shadow.
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How come every Forsaken wasn’t loaded with angreal when they were sealed in the Bore? Night Walker - 07/05/2011 02:35:18 AM 2325 Views
Several reasons exist Ryan - 07/05/2011 08:49:41 AM 1361 Views
Re: Several reasons exist Watcher - 07/05/2011 03:09:51 PM 1220 Views
Re: Several reasons exist Night Walker - 07/05/2011 04:29:39 PM 1250 Views
No Lo'oris - 07/05/2011 08:36:49 PM 1010 Views
Re: No Night Walker - 07/05/2011 09:16:18 PM 986 Views
Or another question redqueen - 07/05/2011 04:07:31 PM 1053 Views
Re: Or another question Night Walker - 07/05/2011 04:24:21 PM 1158 Views
Which would be a shame. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 09/05/2011 08:17:23 PM 1009 Views
There's no reason to pack heat for a meeting at SG newyorkersedai - 07/05/2011 06:08:53 PM 1223 Views
Re: There's no reason to pack heat for a meeting at SG Night Walker - 07/05/2011 06:23:14 PM 1041 Views
Yeah, but newyorkersedai - 07/05/2011 07:30:45 PM 1017 Views
They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... DomA - 07/05/2011 08:48:50 PM 1267 Views
Re: They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... Night Walker - 07/05/2011 09:54:11 PM 1126 Views
Re: They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... Ryan - 08/05/2011 05:48:01 PM 1031 Views
Uh whatever! malekithe - 11/05/2011 07:35:54 AM 1430 Views
Re: Uh whatever! Lo'oris - 11/05/2011 10:02:40 AM 1188 Views
Meet malekithe. Cannoli - 11/05/2011 08:06:01 PM 1065 Views
Meet Cannoli malekithe - 18/05/2011 07:47:46 AM 1375 Views
Re: Meet Cannoli Cannoli - 19/05/2011 01:45:03 PM 1315 Views
Whatever whatever! malekithe - 18/05/2011 07:43:31 AM 1168 Views
But the Dark One could control what the One Power did in Shayol Ghul RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/05/2011 07:14:43 PM 1068 Views
it could also be that he told them to, because he could. LadyLorraine - 11/05/2011 10:18:34 PM 1036 Views
Re: it could also be that he told them to, because he could. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/05/2011 11:50:27 PM 1012 Views
I was under impression they weren't very aware of the "destroying reality" part LadyLorraine - 12/05/2011 06:06:56 AM 956 Views
yep (on both) *NM* Lo'oris - 12/05/2011 08:37:59 AM 518 Views
I think they were at least in some part RugbyPlayingAshaman - 12/05/2011 04:15:26 PM 899 Views
RJ stuffed up... Shannow - 08/05/2011 02:13:15 PM 1127 Views
Re: I don't think so Watcher - 08/05/2011 03:09:29 PM 1184 Views
Good points Shannow - 08/05/2011 03:13:57 PM 1013 Views
well, given that we don't really KNOW how Cuendillar was made... LadyLorraine - 09/05/2011 06:11:32 AM 1061 Views
Re: well, given that we don't really KNOW how Cuendillar was made... Lo'oris - 09/05/2011 10:57:45 AM 1048 Views
I suppose that depends on what you want to get out of a fantasy book. *NM* LadyLorraine - 09/05/2011 10:28:48 PM 560 Views
Do we really *know* that cuendiar is indestructble? HyogaRott - 10/05/2011 02:46:49 PM 1031 Views
We don't, although simplicity=/=weakness. Another scenario LadyLorraine - 10/05/2011 07:08:57 PM 922 Views
Sort of malekithe - 11/05/2011 07:49:10 AM 1352 Views
Re: RJ stuffed up... Lo'oris - 08/05/2011 03:14:20 PM 1077 Views
Not plastic, more like electronics. Gher - 11/05/2011 03:26:53 PM 1123 Views
I missed this post, it's very well thought! *NM* Lo'oris - 19/05/2011 11:26:00 AM 585 Views
my personal theory with other thoughts Nolan - 09/05/2011 08:10:34 PM 1061 Views
Re: my personal theory with other thoughts Night Walker - 10/05/2011 02:10:13 AM 1046 Views
Re: my personal theory with other thoughts Lo'oris - 10/05/2011 08:07:50 AM 984 Views
Some people would. Gher - 11/05/2011 02:42:25 PM 999 Views
Re: Some people would. Lo'oris - 11/05/2011 03:01:01 PM 928 Views
It definitely wasn't common. Gher - 11/05/2011 03:45:45 PM 1088 Views
Re: It definitely wasn't common. Lo'oris - 11/05/2011 04:03:15 PM 905 Views
and if you had prophesy??? *NM* Nolan - 04/06/2011 03:10:40 AM 608 Views
My personal theory is that angreal and sa'angreal require Circles of male and female channelers RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/05/2011 07:24:34 PM 1016 Views
Re: My personal theory is that angreal and sa'angreal require Circles of male and female channelers redqueen - 11/05/2011 07:45:03 PM 944 Views
makes sense *NM* Lo'oris - 12/05/2011 08:36:08 AM 545 Views
Er, though - redqueen - 16/05/2011 06:08:55 PM 979 Views
Re: Er, though - Lo'oris - 17/05/2011 12:38:14 PM 893 Views
Don't think so redqueen - 17/05/2011 01:09:36 PM 1104 Views
Re: Don't think so Lo'oris - 17/05/2011 01:15:53 PM 944 Views
I imagine they could redqueen - 17/05/2011 01:45:03 PM 1026 Views
Re: I imagine they could Lo'oris - 17/05/2011 01:49:53 PM 984 Views
That makes sense redqueen - 17/05/2011 02:16:05 PM 1017 Views
Re: That makes sense Lo'oris - 17/05/2011 03:46:04 PM 917 Views
Re: That makes sense redqueen - 17/05/2011 04:21:11 PM 938 Views
Re: That makes sense Lo'oris - 18/05/2011 01:18:43 PM 978 Views
That scene was weird redqueen - 18/05/2011 02:37:44 PM 921 Views
Re: That scene was weird Lo'oris - 19/05/2011 10:41:59 AM 913 Views
We don't really know how the a'dam are made (I see this brought up in the other posts, though) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 23/05/2011 03:11:18 PM 1095 Views
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