Active Users:1160 Time:10/01/2025 12:42:11 AM
Re: They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... Ryan Send a noteboard - 08/05/2011 05:48:01 PM
Only fairly weak channellers would really need personal angreal, and it sounds like having one was a sign of weakness as most of them are disguised to pass unnoticed as brooches or rings and such, or decorative items you could keep on display and pick up if you need them at home, or carry in a purse. Among the Forsaken, flaunting an angreal is probably the same as admitting you're in fear of the others. The Chosen even mocked (privately or not) those who sought to acquire the big stuff like Callandor. They all wish they had stuff like this, but they won't admit it to the others.


The fact some angreal were fashioned as jewelry seems to indicate that they were worn to be shown off. So the Chosen are likely more jealous of angreal then take them as a sign of fear. Graendal seemed to always wear the ring she got from Mesaana. That could be out of fear but it could also have been because she saw the value in always having one on.



As for the Forsaken not coming to SG with a whole arsenal, it seems to me the answer is pretty obvious. They probably all had a collection in a hidden place somewhere, but RJ described the DO as the ultimate paranoid control freak... He totally forbids the use of the OP near the Pit of Doom, killing anyone touching the Source without questions asked... You'd have to be a complete moron to go there with anything ressembling a OP object, especially anything like a OP magnifier...


I understand that you wouldn't walk around with all the angreal you owned, but I would think if you had some small angreal, (rings, bracelets or small fat men) you might keep an extra one on yourself. Why make things like rings or bracelets if you don’t intend on wearing them most if not all the time? Those are the type of angreal you could forget you are wearing.

The point about the DO being paranoid is a good one but why should he worry about small angreal since he can control when someone can channel? Even if a Channeler had every angreal and sa’angreal ever made I don’t think they would come close to the power output by the Choedan Kal, and as Lanfear indicates, only those would be powerful enough to pose any threat to the DO.

Ultimately It’s been shown time and again that even small boosts one’s ability to channel can tip the scales. If you leave a Gateway only to find yourself ambushed then having angreal at home won’t do you any good. The same goes for leaving Shayol Ghul, who knows what might happen at your destination. So since the Chosen are paranoid of attack from the “good guys” and from each other I would think they would wear at least one angreal to make themselves more impressive (much like animals make themselves look bigger to avoid conflict) and ease their own fears.

In the end its all moot anyways but there seems to be more incentive and motivation to wear some small angreal if you have them over leaving them at home.


The Dark One is uber paranoid. Act first, ask questions later. It would be like the president speaking at a whittler's convention. Sure they're just pocket knives, and the president has secret service. You think anyone is going to be let in there with one?
The past is just that, the past. You can only truly live by looking to the future!
Reply to message
How come every Forsaken wasn’t loaded with angreal when they were sealed in the Bore? - 07/05/2011 02:35:18 AM 2263 Views
Several reasons exist - 07/05/2011 08:49:41 AM 1297 Views
Re: Several reasons exist - 07/05/2011 03:09:51 PM 1165 Views
Re: Several reasons exist - 07/05/2011 04:29:39 PM 1195 Views
No - 07/05/2011 08:36:49 PM 946 Views
Re: No - 07/05/2011 09:16:18 PM 932 Views
Or another question - 07/05/2011 04:07:31 PM 990 Views
Re: Or another question - 07/05/2011 04:24:21 PM 1100 Views
Which would be a shame. - 09/05/2011 08:17:23 PM 935 Views
There's no reason to pack heat for a meeting at SG - 07/05/2011 06:08:53 PM 1162 Views
Re: There's no reason to pack heat for a meeting at SG - 07/05/2011 06:23:14 PM 978 Views
Yeah, but - 07/05/2011 07:30:45 PM 965 Views
They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... - 07/05/2011 08:48:50 PM 1203 Views
Re: They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... - 07/05/2011 09:54:11 PM 1054 Views
Re: They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... - 08/05/2011 05:48:01 PM 969 Views
Uh whatever! - 11/05/2011 07:35:54 AM 1372 Views
Re: Uh whatever! - 11/05/2011 10:02:40 AM 1127 Views
Meet malekithe. - 11/05/2011 08:06:01 PM 1010 Views
Meet Cannoli - 18/05/2011 07:47:46 AM 1304 Views
Re: Meet Cannoli - 19/05/2011 01:45:03 PM 1257 Views
Whatever whatever! - 18/05/2011 07:43:31 AM 1109 Views
But the Dark One could control what the One Power did in Shayol Ghul - 11/05/2011 07:14:43 PM 1004 Views
it could also be that he told them to, because he could. - 11/05/2011 10:18:34 PM 978 Views
Re: it could also be that he told them to, because he could. - 11/05/2011 11:50:27 PM 950 Views
I was under impression they weren't very aware of the "destroying reality" part - 12/05/2011 06:06:56 AM 902 Views
yep (on both) *NM* - 12/05/2011 08:37:59 AM 495 Views
I think they were at least in some part - 12/05/2011 04:15:26 PM 841 Views
RJ stuffed up... - 08/05/2011 02:13:15 PM 1071 Views
Re: I don't think so - 08/05/2011 03:09:29 PM 1129 Views
Good points - 08/05/2011 03:13:57 PM 955 Views
well, given that we don't really KNOW how Cuendillar was made... - 09/05/2011 06:11:32 AM 1002 Views
Do we really *know* that cuendiar is indestructble? - 10/05/2011 02:46:49 PM 976 Views
We don't, although simplicity=/=weakness. Another scenario - 10/05/2011 07:08:57 PM 866 Views
Sort of - 11/05/2011 07:49:10 AM 1299 Views
Re: RJ stuffed up... - 08/05/2011 03:14:20 PM 1013 Views
Not plastic, more like electronics. - 11/05/2011 03:26:53 PM 1069 Views
I missed this post, it's very well thought! *NM* - 19/05/2011 11:26:00 AM 557 Views
my personal theory with other thoughts - 09/05/2011 08:10:34 PM 1012 Views
Re: my personal theory with other thoughts - 10/05/2011 02:10:13 AM 994 Views
Re: my personal theory with other thoughts - 10/05/2011 08:07:50 AM 925 Views
Some people would. - 11/05/2011 02:42:25 PM 968 Views
Re: Some people would. - 11/05/2011 03:01:01 PM 872 Views
It definitely wasn't common. - 11/05/2011 03:45:45 PM 1026 Views
Re: It definitely wasn't common. - 11/05/2011 04:03:15 PM 845 Views
and if you had prophesy??? *NM* - 04/06/2011 03:10:40 AM 583 Views
My personal theory is that angreal and sa'angreal require Circles of male and female channelers - 11/05/2011 07:24:34 PM 963 Views
makes sense *NM* - 12/05/2011 08:36:08 AM 522 Views
Er, though - - 16/05/2011 06:08:55 PM 924 Views
Re: Er, though - - 17/05/2011 12:38:14 PM 842 Views
Don't think so - 17/05/2011 01:09:36 PM 1032 Views
Re: Don't think so - 17/05/2011 01:15:53 PM 877 Views
I imagine they could - 17/05/2011 01:45:03 PM 963 Views
Re: I imagine they could - 17/05/2011 01:49:53 PM 920 Views
That makes sense - 17/05/2011 02:16:05 PM 952 Views
Re: That makes sense - 17/05/2011 03:46:04 PM 854 Views
Re: That makes sense - 17/05/2011 04:21:11 PM 879 Views
Re: That makes sense - 18/05/2011 01:18:43 PM 910 Views
That scene was weird - 18/05/2011 02:37:44 PM 871 Views
Re: That scene was weird - 19/05/2011 10:41:59 AM 857 Views

Reply to Message