To me it makes sense that every Channeler would have numerous angreal if possible. It also makes sense to me that there would be many angreal identical to one another (like Elayne's ter'angreal). If you can make one you would likely make more of the same in one sitting. Since there doesn’t seem to be a limit to how many angreal you can use at one time then I would think angreal, even in a time of peace, would be wanted by the masses of Channelers.
The only reason I can think of that there is not a lot of angreal is that they must be very difficult to make. The only other reason I can think of as to why there is not more is that maybe the production of angreal was limited by the Aes Sedai themselves; however over a period as long as the AoL was it seems like there should be millions of angreal even if production was limited or they were difficult to make.
The only reason I can think of that there is not a lot of angreal is that they must be very difficult to make. The only other reason I can think of as to why there is not more is that maybe the production of angreal was limited by the Aes Sedai themselves; however over a period as long as the AoL was it seems like there should be millions of angreal even if production was limited or they were difficult to make.
There are a number of instances where RJ appears to have committed errors of logic in favour of plot requirements. Two of these relate to the apparent lack of effort required in the construction of angreal and cuendillar.
By having Elayne construct ter'angreal so easily (and by association angreal as well), and by having Egwene construct Cuendillar so easily, RJ renders absurd the idea that these two items could have been rare in any way back in the AOL.
I am not rejecting the idea of Elayne or Ewgene having these two respective Talents. But it would have been far more logical if even with these Talents, it should take Elayne months to construct a ter'angreal and that it should have taken Egwene an equal amount of time to create a small goblet of Cuendillar, rather than constructing an entire Harbour chain in a few days.
No matter how talented these two ladies are, in the AOL there were MILLIONS of powerful and talented channelers, so anything these two can achieve could have been duplicated a thousandfold back then.
The entire world should have been full of permanently indestructible Cuendillar objects in that case. And ter'angreal and angreal should have been as cheap as plastic is in our world.
I also reject the notion raised elsewhere on this thread that the Forsaken would have been unwilling to openly carry angreal, out of some sort of pride or unwillingness to admit weakness.
Lews Therin had a well publicized paralis net. He had his own personal Sa'angreal. Even the weakest of angreal appear to come close to doubling a channeler's strength. In a time of war, every advantage is sought after. Especially in an environment such as the ranks of the Shadow, where it is each man for himself.
The Forsaken should have been carrying angreal like a Mafioso carries guns.
The only reason why they did not have them at Shayol Ghul, is that the Dark One probably forbade them bringing any along. But in all other circumstances I am sure they carried loads of the stuff.
Incidentally, this also invalidates the theory that Lanfear somehow had a strength augmenting angreal hidden on her person. If the others were not allowed to bring along angreal to Shayol Ghul, she would not have been allowed to either.
This message last edited by Shannow on 08/05/2011 at 02:15:55 PM
How come every Forsaken wasn’t loaded with angreal when they were sealed in the Bore?
07/05/2011 02:35:18 AM
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Several reasons exist
07/05/2011 08:49:41 AM
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Re: Several reasons exist
07/05/2011 03:09:51 PM
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Or another question
07/05/2011 04:07:31 PM
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There's no reason to pack heat for a meeting at SG
07/05/2011 06:08:53 PM
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They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice...
07/05/2011 08:48:50 PM
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Uh whatever!
11/05/2011 07:35:54 AM
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Re: Uh whatever!
11/05/2011 10:02:40 AM
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But the Dark One could control what the One Power did in Shayol Ghul
11/05/2011 07:14:43 PM
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it could also be that he told them to, because he could.
11/05/2011 10:18:34 PM
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Re: it could also be that he told them to, because he could.
11/05/2011 11:50:27 PM
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I was under impression they weren't very aware of the "destroying reality" part
12/05/2011 06:06:56 AM
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RJ stuffed up...
08/05/2011 02:13:15 PM
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Re: I don't think so
08/05/2011 03:09:29 PM
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Good points
08/05/2011 03:13:57 PM
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well, given that we don't really KNOW how Cuendillar was made...
09/05/2011 06:11:32 AM
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Re: well, given that we don't really KNOW how Cuendillar was made...
09/05/2011 10:57:45 AM
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I suppose that depends on what you want to get out of a fantasy book. *NM*
09/05/2011 10:28:48 PM
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my personal theory with other thoughts
09/05/2011 08:10:34 PM
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Re: my personal theory with other thoughts
10/05/2011 08:07:50 AM
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Some people would.
11/05/2011 02:42:25 PM
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Re: Some people would.
11/05/2011 03:01:01 PM
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It definitely wasn't common.
11/05/2011 03:45:45 PM
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My personal theory is that angreal and sa'angreal require Circles of male and female channelers
11/05/2011 07:24:34 PM
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Re: My personal theory is that angreal and sa'angreal require Circles of male and female channelers
11/05/2011 07:45:03 PM
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Er, though -
16/05/2011 06:08:55 PM
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Re: Er, though -
17/05/2011 12:38:14 PM
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Don't think so
17/05/2011 01:09:36 PM
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Re: Don't think so
17/05/2011 01:15:53 PM
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I imagine they could
17/05/2011 01:45:03 PM
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Re: I imagine they could
17/05/2011 01:49:53 PM
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That makes sense
17/05/2011 02:16:05 PM
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Re: That makes sense
17/05/2011 03:46:04 PM
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Re: That makes sense
17/05/2011 04:21:11 PM
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Re: That makes sense
18/05/2011 01:18:43 PM
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We don't really know how the a'dam are made (I see this brought up in the other posts, though)
23/05/2011 03:11:18 PM
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