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Re: Several reasons exist Watcher Send a noteboard - 07/05/2011 03:09:51 PM
Given that the Shadow was winning right up to the Strike it stands to reason that they had at least the same amount of angreal & Sa'angreal as the forces of the light. Otherwise the forces of the light would be on the verge of collapse. We have no way of kwowing how many of them were or who originally owned those found in Rand's time. The fat little man angreal could just as easily have belonged to a darkfriend in the AOL as the light.

We know that its not just a simple matter of making sa'angreal. Callandor has a flaw and RJ said that this was because the forces of the light were pumping out angreal and sa'angreal as fast as they could and the rush resulted in the flaw.

That suggests to me that making an angreal and Sa'angreal is more akin to trying to build an apollo space ship that say a M16. You can mass produce the machine gun relativly easy but rush the ship that will take you to the moon and things can go wrong.

With that in mind the number of angreal & Sa'angreal may have been in the high thousands rather that millions. It does stand to reason though that high profile targets like LTT and the Forsaken would all be armed. I think that Rand/LTT called it a some sort of net in the last book when referring to Cadsuanai's ornaments.

Why would the surviving forsaken not have any on them when freed? The simplest reason is probably that they had to check them at the door. We know that you don't channell near SG without the DO's permission. Secondly if you do before the DO tells you how pissed at you he is there could be unforseen reactions between the OP and the TP. Thirdly we know that the best way to get ahead among the Forsaken is to kill your rivals.

Put those three together and I could easily see a rule that no one is allowed angreal or sa'angreal anywhere near the bore when there are staff meetings being called. Otherwise the meetings could turn into open battles.

So for example Lanfear leaves all her angreal etc at a safe location goes to the meeting and normally will retrieve her gear when she leaves. Instead LTT and the Hundred Companions show up, she ends up sealed in the bore and when she gets out her safe room with all her stuff is buried under the sea.
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How come every Forsaken wasn’t loaded with angreal when they were sealed in the Bore? - 07/05/2011 02:35:18 AM 2313 Views
Several reasons exist - 07/05/2011 08:49:41 AM 1347 Views
Re: Several reasons exist - 07/05/2011 03:09:51 PM 1209 Views
Re: Several reasons exist - 07/05/2011 04:29:39 PM 1239 Views
No - 07/05/2011 08:36:49 PM 998 Views
Re: No - 07/05/2011 09:16:18 PM 972 Views
Or another question - 07/05/2011 04:07:31 PM 1042 Views
Re: Or another question - 07/05/2011 04:24:21 PM 1145 Views
Which would be a shame. - 09/05/2011 08:17:23 PM 992 Views
There's no reason to pack heat for a meeting at SG - 07/05/2011 06:08:53 PM 1205 Views
Re: There's no reason to pack heat for a meeting at SG - 07/05/2011 06:23:14 PM 1028 Views
Yeah, but - 07/05/2011 07:30:45 PM 1007 Views
They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... - 07/05/2011 08:48:50 PM 1252 Views
Re: They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... - 07/05/2011 09:54:11 PM 1110 Views
Re: They probably left them all at home.. .and not by choice... - 08/05/2011 05:48:01 PM 1017 Views
Uh whatever! - 11/05/2011 07:35:54 AM 1413 Views
Re: Uh whatever! - 11/05/2011 10:02:40 AM 1172 Views
Meet malekithe. - 11/05/2011 08:06:01 PM 1052 Views
Meet Cannoli - 18/05/2011 07:47:46 AM 1361 Views
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Whatever whatever! - 18/05/2011 07:43:31 AM 1156 Views
But the Dark One could control what the One Power did in Shayol Ghul - 11/05/2011 07:14:43 PM 1056 Views
it could also be that he told them to, because he could. - 11/05/2011 10:18:34 PM 1025 Views
Re: it could also be that he told them to, because he could. - 11/05/2011 11:50:27 PM 997 Views
I was under impression they weren't very aware of the "destroying reality" part - 12/05/2011 06:06:56 AM 945 Views
yep (on both) *NM* - 12/05/2011 08:37:59 AM 513 Views
I think they were at least in some part - 12/05/2011 04:15:26 PM 884 Views
RJ stuffed up... - 08/05/2011 02:13:15 PM 1114 Views
Re: I don't think so - 08/05/2011 03:09:29 PM 1175 Views
Good points - 08/05/2011 03:13:57 PM 1001 Views
well, given that we don't really KNOW how Cuendillar was made... - 09/05/2011 06:11:32 AM 1045 Views
Re: well, given that we don't really KNOW how Cuendillar was made... - 09/05/2011 10:57:45 AM 1039 Views
I suppose that depends on what you want to get out of a fantasy book. *NM* - 09/05/2011 10:28:48 PM 556 Views
Do we really *know* that cuendiar is indestructble? - 10/05/2011 02:46:49 PM 1019 Views
We don't, although simplicity=/=weakness. Another scenario - 10/05/2011 07:08:57 PM 911 Views
Sort of - 11/05/2011 07:49:10 AM 1337 Views
Re: RJ stuffed up... - 08/05/2011 03:14:20 PM 1065 Views
Not plastic, more like electronics. - 11/05/2011 03:26:53 PM 1110 Views
I missed this post, it's very well thought! *NM* - 19/05/2011 11:26:00 AM 579 Views
my personal theory with other thoughts - 09/05/2011 08:10:34 PM 1051 Views
Re: my personal theory with other thoughts - 10/05/2011 02:10:13 AM 1034 Views
Re: my personal theory with other thoughts - 10/05/2011 08:07:50 AM 973 Views
Some people would. - 11/05/2011 02:42:25 PM 985 Views
Re: Some people would. - 11/05/2011 03:01:01 PM 918 Views
It definitely wasn't common. - 11/05/2011 03:45:45 PM 1077 Views
Re: It definitely wasn't common. - 11/05/2011 04:03:15 PM 892 Views
and if you had prophesy??? *NM* - 04/06/2011 03:10:40 AM 601 Views
My personal theory is that angreal and sa'angreal require Circles of male and female channelers - 11/05/2011 07:24:34 PM 1003 Views
makes sense *NM* - 12/05/2011 08:36:08 AM 541 Views
Er, though - - 16/05/2011 06:08:55 PM 965 Views
Re: Er, though - - 17/05/2011 12:38:14 PM 884 Views
Don't think so - 17/05/2011 01:09:36 PM 1088 Views
Re: Don't think so - 17/05/2011 01:15:53 PM 927 Views
I imagine they could - 17/05/2011 01:45:03 PM 1010 Views
Re: I imagine they could - 17/05/2011 01:49:53 PM 972 Views
That makes sense - 17/05/2011 02:16:05 PM 1001 Views
Re: That makes sense - 17/05/2011 03:46:04 PM 902 Views
Re: That makes sense - 17/05/2011 04:21:11 PM 926 Views
Re: That makes sense - 18/05/2011 01:18:43 PM 961 Views
That scene was weird - 18/05/2011 02:37:44 PM 910 Views
Re: That scene was weird - 19/05/2011 10:41:59 AM 902 Views

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