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Well... redqueen Send a noteboard - 29/04/2011 12:14:42 AM
Except that Tower-Andor relations are at an all time high. The Amyrlin is the Queen's best friend, is about to marry the First Prince of the Sword, and both women know how the other works very well. Does it even make sense to talk of the Tower and Andor as anything but a solidly fused block? What power one gains will hugely benefit the other.


Political alignment is not the same as shared benefit, and the presence of an Aes Sedai on the throne of Andor may paradoxically make the Tower weaker there than it might be elsewhere. Most rulers have an Aes Sedai advisor, even if not openly, and listen when she speaks. It's a kind of insurance, and the Tower can discreely blacklist those who don't play ball, cutting them out of the best diplomatic and trade deals. This has been their modus operandi for thousands of years. But Elayne is an Aes Sedai herself, and her shawl gives her all the privileges of association with the Tower with none of the drawbacks of having to do as the Hall of the Tower thinks best.

This would not have been true, I don't think, of Moiraine, if they'd managed to make her queen of Cairhien. Her NS POVs make it clear she was well indoctrinated. But Elayne spent very little time in the Tower. She's still capable of independent thought.

The presence of the Black Tower may change matters, though. Assuming it isn't entirely destroyed, and assuming it and the White Tower remain separate organisations, I wouldn't be surprised to see it slowly take over Andor, or other countries, in the coming decades and centuries. Certainly it's already a legitimate political player, purely by virtue of having the power to reduce Caemlyn to molten slag if it wishes.
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Egwene vs. Gawyn (ToM spoilers of course) - 28/04/2011 05:01:46 AM 4133 Views
There's fifty feet of crap between rock bottom and your post... *NM* - 28/04/2011 07:40:04 AM 506 Views
Almost three days since the last post...at least I'm trying. - 28/04/2011 12:17:59 PM 1022 Views
Sorry about that... - 28/04/2011 10:58:50 PM 1081 Views
Ah, its always good to see a good Egwene rant. Bravo! NM *NM* - 28/04/2011 01:58:46 PM 743 Views
Great work, Cannoli - 28/04/2011 02:09:28 PM 1035 Views
Regarding the mother's permission.... - 28/04/2011 07:26:29 PM 1102 Views
while i agree with you on most of this - 28/04/2011 04:53:06 PM 1164 Views
hmpf, i post a good point and nothing - 28/04/2011 11:09:53 PM 934 Views
Everybody agrees with you, that's why there were no replies *NM* - 28/04/2011 11:29:13 PM 493 Views
Here's a scary thought - 28/04/2011 11:54:50 PM 1250 Views
OMGWTFBBQ!? - 28/04/2011 11:58:37 PM 974 Views
In regards to the letters... - 28/04/2011 05:28:13 PM 1212 Views
But Gawyn was not Egwene's subject - 28/04/2011 06:09:31 PM 1014 Views
Which was why I thought it was appropriate, since he meant to act as Egwene's Warder. - 28/04/2011 06:19:53 PM 973 Views
The only issue is that Warders are not minions - they are honored junior partners. - 28/04/2011 07:39:18 PM 1138 Views
No, the junior partners are Accepted. Warders are essentially personal bodyguards and/or assistants. - 28/04/2011 08:00:17 PM 937 Views
Marriage - 28/04/2011 08:27:53 PM 952 Views
Accepted are not anything, let alone junior partners. Don't think N&E's experience was typical - 28/04/2011 09:32:22 PM 1186 Views
Here's the thing though... - 28/04/2011 11:20:32 PM 988 Views
No, but it's cute and quirky when Faile does it. - 29/04/2011 03:06:50 PM 1150 Views
But... - 29/04/2011 10:52:03 PM 944 Views
That's not really clear - 29/04/2011 11:41:20 PM 1078 Views
Actually, it is... - 30/04/2011 06:37:42 PM 1106 Views
Re: Actually, it is... - 30/04/2011 11:17:21 PM 975 Views
Didn't Siuan, Gareth and Gawyn tell her about the Bloodknife they encountered? - 02/05/2011 02:33:08 PM 984 Views
It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:10:23 PM 1286 Views
Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:25:31 PM 1211 Views
thumbs up to you both *NM* - 28/04/2011 08:45:51 PM 480 Views
Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:46:37 PM 1106 Views
Galad is a great option for a political marriage - 28/04/2011 09:04:46 PM 979 Views
Yes, but... - 28/04/2011 09:40:39 PM 1010 Views
but galad knew nothing of berelain's closeness to rand, so that couldn't have affected anything - 28/04/2011 10:12:23 PM 1053 Views
Exactly - 28/04/2011 10:27:04 PM 911 Views
Yes. An often overlooked point is that ELAYNE, not Egwene, gains the most power in ToM - 28/04/2011 09:42:43 PM 1365 Views
Except... - 28/04/2011 11:16:25 PM 1010 Views
Well... - 29/04/2011 12:14:42 AM 974 Views
Re: Well... - 29/04/2011 08:39:37 AM 933 Views
Except they're both really hot. - 28/04/2011 10:01:46 PM 1157 Views
They were naive - 28/04/2011 11:10:34 PM 952 Views
Re: They were naive - 29/04/2011 03:18:42 PM 1243 Views
I can only quibble; Egwene became so insufferable in ToM I'm convinced her fate will be unpleasant. - 04/05/2011 12:41:53 AM 1149 Views
Siuan... - 04/05/2011 05:42:59 AM 1119 Views
Re: Siuan screwed up big time. - 07/05/2011 03:35:46 AM 993 Views
Re: Siuan screwed up big time. - 12/05/2011 02:13:08 PM 971 Views
"McClellanesque", eh? I'll have to remember that one. - 16/05/2011 12:12:23 AM 1249 Views

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