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They were naive redqueen Send a noteboard - 28/04/2011 11:10:34 PM
The only character to scorn Berelain and constantly look upon her as a worthless slut is Egwene. Surprise, surprise.


Elayne too, and Nynaeve didn't think much of her. I always assumed it was just their naivity - Egwene and Nynaeve still judging the world by Two Rivers standards (does anyone else think 'good Two Rivers woolens' are more about warmth than modesty? It's cold around there) and Elayne being jealous over Rand. Elayne, though she would have been raised knowing her marriage was a means to an end, would have unquestioningly assumed that she would enter into any such relationship from a position of strength. None of the three of them knew anything about the political realities of being a weak woman ruler with only beauty and guile for weapons.

Egwene, at least, should overcome that bias if she ever stops to think about it. Her own time as a 'novice' in the Tower was very similar, in principle, to what Berelain had to do. Her only weapons were her mind and her white dress, and she allowed her body to both be beaten and used for labour because it was the only way to succeed. You do what you have to do.
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Egwene vs. Gawyn (ToM spoilers of course) - 28/04/2011 05:01:46 AM 3951 Views
There's fifty feet of crap between rock bottom and your post... *NM* - 28/04/2011 07:40:04 AM 470 Views
Almost three days since the last post...at least I'm trying. - 28/04/2011 12:17:59 PM 930 Views
Sorry about that... - 28/04/2011 10:58:50 PM 989 Views
Ah, its always good to see a good Egwene rant. Bravo! NM *NM* - 28/04/2011 01:58:46 PM 708 Views
Great work, Cannoli - 28/04/2011 02:09:28 PM 944 Views
Regarding the mother's permission.... - 28/04/2011 07:26:29 PM 1012 Views
while i agree with you on most of this - 28/04/2011 04:53:06 PM 1074 Views
hmpf, i post a good point and nothing - 28/04/2011 11:09:53 PM 851 Views
Everybody agrees with you, that's why there were no replies *NM* - 28/04/2011 11:29:13 PM 456 Views
Here's a scary thought - 28/04/2011 11:54:50 PM 1154 Views
OMGWTFBBQ!? - 28/04/2011 11:58:37 PM 912 Views
In regards to the letters... - 28/04/2011 05:28:13 PM 1115 Views
But Gawyn was not Egwene's subject - 28/04/2011 06:09:31 PM 930 Views
Which was why I thought it was appropriate, since he meant to act as Egwene's Warder. - 28/04/2011 06:19:53 PM 894 Views
The only issue is that Warders are not minions - they are honored junior partners. - 28/04/2011 07:39:18 PM 1049 Views
No, the junior partners are Accepted. Warders are essentially personal bodyguards and/or assistants. - 28/04/2011 08:00:17 PM 846 Views
Marriage - 28/04/2011 08:27:53 PM 870 Views
Accepted are not anything, let alone junior partners. Don't think N&E's experience was typical - 28/04/2011 09:32:22 PM 1072 Views
Here's the thing though... - 28/04/2011 11:20:32 PM 897 Views
No, but it's cute and quirky when Faile does it. - 29/04/2011 03:06:50 PM 1065 Views
But... - 29/04/2011 10:52:03 PM 862 Views
That's not really clear - 29/04/2011 11:41:20 PM 990 Views
Actually, it is... - 30/04/2011 06:37:42 PM 1003 Views
Re: Actually, it is... - 30/04/2011 11:17:21 PM 883 Views
Didn't Siuan, Gareth and Gawyn tell her about the Bloodknife they encountered? - 02/05/2011 02:33:08 PM 889 Views
It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:10:23 PM 1199 Views
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thumbs up to you both *NM* - 28/04/2011 08:45:51 PM 439 Views
Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:46:37 PM 1010 Views
Galad is a great option for a political marriage - 28/04/2011 09:04:46 PM 882 Views
Yes, but... - 28/04/2011 09:40:39 PM 926 Views
but galad knew nothing of berelain's closeness to rand, so that couldn't have affected anything - 28/04/2011 10:12:23 PM 961 Views
Exactly - 28/04/2011 10:27:04 PM 805 Views
Yes. An often overlooked point is that ELAYNE, not Egwene, gains the most power in ToM - 28/04/2011 09:42:43 PM 1261 Views
Except... - 28/04/2011 11:16:25 PM 923 Views
Well... - 29/04/2011 12:14:42 AM 875 Views
Re: Well... - 29/04/2011 08:39:37 AM 861 Views
Except they're both really hot. - 28/04/2011 10:01:46 PM 1059 Views
They were naive - 28/04/2011 11:10:34 PM 885 Views
Re: They were naive - 29/04/2011 03:18:42 PM 1122 Views
I can only quibble; Egwene became so insufferable in ToM I'm convinced her fate will be unpleasant. - 04/05/2011 12:41:53 AM 1024 Views
Siuan... - 04/05/2011 05:42:59 AM 1029 Views
Re: Siuan screwed up big time. - 07/05/2011 03:35:46 AM 898 Views
Re: Siuan screwed up big time. - 12/05/2011 02:13:08 PM 887 Views
"McClellanesque", eh? I'll have to remember that one. - 16/05/2011 12:12:23 AM 1160 Views

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