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Yes. An often overlooked point is that ELAYNE, not Egwene, gains the most power in ToM Cannoli Send a noteboard - 28/04/2011 09:42:43 PM
He gives Berelain a connection to the Queen of Andor, he's the LCC of the Children, who are still significant military force and retain some political influence and also a connection to the Dragon Reborn through Elayne (who she thinks the Dragon intends to marry). Add to that he's apparently the most handsome man alive, I am not too bothered that Berelain fell in love with him so quickly.
The power-bloc Elayne assembles through this book is something any ruler, especially a weak power, would leap at the chance to become part of. In Berelain's case, where she has apparently trained her genitals to respond to potential benefits to Mayne, such an alliance is the sexiest thing she has ever encountered.

When she learns that Galad is Rand's half-brother, his other half-brother is marrying the Amyrlin, and Galad's cousin Caraline is marrying the King of Tear, Berelain's love will get even stronger. :)
Not a dry seat in the house, as the saying goes.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
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Egwene vs. Gawyn (ToM spoilers of course) Cannoli - 28/04/2011 05:01:46 AM 4112 Views
There's fifty feet of crap between rock bottom and your post... *NM* fionwe1987 - 28/04/2011 07:40:04 AM 502 Views
Almost three days since the last post...at least I'm trying. Cannoli - 28/04/2011 12:17:59 PM 1013 Views
What is to discuss here? You hate Egwene and will spin anything to put her in a negative light darius_sedai - 28/04/2011 12:59:58 PM 1070 Views
As a complete outsider w/ no dog in this fight.... scalius - 28/04/2011 04:06:39 PM 1112 Views
Who said anything about him not presenting his argument well? darius_sedai - 29/04/2011 03:20:46 PM 1095 Views
Puns are pointless if the whole word is censored. *sigh* Cannoli - 28/04/2011 06:18:11 PM 1267 Views
But he's so good at it. all the pieces are in there and close to the right place... like a picasso. Onarishma - 03/05/2011 12:51:54 AM 1039 Views
Sorry about that... fionwe1987 - 28/04/2011 10:58:50 PM 1072 Views
I'd say there's no need to take it so seriously when there's so few posts lately. You should see newyorkersedai - 28/04/2011 05:59:19 PM 979 Views
Ah, its always good to see a good Egwene rant. Bravo! NM *NM* AshaShan - 28/04/2011 01:58:46 PM 737 Views
Great work, Cannoli Zeratul - 28/04/2011 02:09:28 PM 1028 Views
Regarding the mother's permission.... Cannoli - 28/04/2011 07:26:29 PM 1093 Views
while i agree with you on most of this Yunalesca - 28/04/2011 04:53:06 PM 1156 Views
hmpf, i post a good point and nothing Yunalesca - 28/04/2011 11:09:53 PM 927 Views
Everybody agrees with you, that's why there were no replies *NM* Zeratul - 28/04/2011 11:29:13 PM 487 Views
Here's a scary thought redqueen - 28/04/2011 11:54:50 PM 1242 Views
OMGWTFBBQ!? Yunalesca - 28/04/2011 11:58:37 PM 969 Views
you could say the same about a lot of the relationships in this series Ava - 28/04/2011 04:59:19 PM 1114 Views
I agree there are plenty of underdeveloped and somewhat one-sided relationships in the series ßelals Girl - 28/04/2011 08:15:52 PM 1160 Views
Re: I agree there are plenty of underdeveloped and somewhat one-sided relationships in the series Ava - 29/04/2011 06:55:14 PM 986 Views
Re: Avi/Min scalius - 28/04/2011 09:48:01 PM 1056 Views
A courtship where one side doesn't realize they are courting.... Ava - 29/04/2011 07:09:36 PM 924 Views
In regards to the letters... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/04/2011 05:28:13 PM 1205 Views
But Gawyn was not Egwene's subject Zeratul - 28/04/2011 06:09:31 PM 1005 Views
Which was why I thought it was appropriate, since he meant to act as Egwene's Warder. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/04/2011 06:19:53 PM 966 Views
The only issue is that Warders are not minions - they are honored junior partners. Cannoli - 28/04/2011 07:39:18 PM 1130 Views
No, the junior partners are Accepted. Warders are essentially personal bodyguards and/or assistants. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/04/2011 08:00:17 PM 930 Views
Marriage redqueen - 28/04/2011 08:27:53 PM 946 Views
Accepted are not anything, let alone junior partners. Don't think N&E's experience was typical Cannoli - 28/04/2011 09:32:22 PM 1175 Views
Here's the thing though... fionwe1987 - 28/04/2011 11:20:32 PM 978 Views
No, but it's cute and quirky when Faile does it. Cannoli - 29/04/2011 03:06:50 PM 1143 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 29/04/2011 10:52:03 PM 939 Views
That's not really clear Zeratul - 29/04/2011 11:41:20 PM 1071 Views
Actually, it is... fionwe1987 - 30/04/2011 06:37:42 PM 1092 Views
Re: Actually, it is... urizen - 30/04/2011 11:17:21 PM 970 Views
Didn't Siuan, Gareth and Gawyn tell her about the Bloodknife they encountered? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/05/2011 02:33:08 PM 976 Views
Re: Accepted are not anything, let alone junior partners. Don't think N&E's experience was typical RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/04/2011 11:36:24 PM 996 Views
My two cents: yes, a little, maybe, and possibly not. newyorkersedai - 28/04/2011 06:05:09 PM 1115 Views
Regarding your reference to another Emond's Fielder: What are you talking about? Cannoli - 28/04/2011 09:06:13 PM 982 Views
both together, couldn't separate them in my mind - perrin's evasiveness or nyn's trickiness *NM* newyorkersedai - 28/04/2011 10:16:57 PM 511 Views
It isn't the worst romance in WoT redqueen - 28/04/2011 08:10:23 PM 1279 Views
Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT ßelals Girl - 28/04/2011 08:25:31 PM 1204 Views
thumbs up to you both *NM* newyorkersedai - 28/04/2011 08:45:51 PM 477 Views
Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT redqueen - 28/04/2011 08:46:37 PM 1099 Views
Galad is a great option for a political marriage Zeratul - 28/04/2011 09:04:46 PM 971 Views
Yes, but... redqueen - 28/04/2011 09:40:39 PM 1003 Views
but galad knew nothing of berelain's closeness to rand, so that couldn't have affected anything mazza3 - 28/04/2011 10:12:23 PM 1046 Views
Exactly redqueen - 28/04/2011 10:27:04 PM 904 Views
Yes. An often overlooked point is that ELAYNE, not Egwene, gains the most power in ToM Cannoli - 28/04/2011 09:42:43 PM 1357 Views
Except... fionwe1987 - 28/04/2011 11:16:25 PM 1001 Views
Well... redqueen - 29/04/2011 12:14:42 AM 965 Views
Re: Well... fionwe1987 - 29/04/2011 08:39:37 AM 925 Views
Except they're both really hot. Cannoli - 28/04/2011 10:01:46 PM 1150 Views
They were naive redqueen - 28/04/2011 11:10:34 PM 945 Views
Re: They were naive Cannoli - 29/04/2011 03:18:42 PM 1226 Views
I can only quibble; Egwene became so insufferable in ToM I'm convinced her fate will be unpleasant. Joel - 04/05/2011 12:41:53 AM 1138 Views
Siuan... fionwe1987 - 04/05/2011 05:42:59 AM 1113 Views
Re: Siuan screwed up big time. Joel - 07/05/2011 03:35:46 AM 986 Views
Re: Siuan screwed up big time. Cannoli - 12/05/2011 02:13:08 PM 966 Views
"McClellanesque", eh? I'll have to remember that one. Joel - 16/05/2011 12:12:23 AM 1241 Views
Good points all round (do you switch brains when getting into real world politics? ) & re: the Talk Cannoli - 12/05/2011 02:04:06 PM 934 Views
I remember being blindsided by "The Talk" in tSR beetnemesis - 12/05/2011 05:04:08 PM 947 Views
Thanks, (and no, you just become less and less astute as we move farther from fiction. ) Joel - 15/05/2011 11:46:41 PM 1292 Views
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