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Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT redqueen Send a noteboard - 28/04/2011 08:46:37 PM
I believe he gave a token protest when they first talked about Egwene bonding him, but Egwene blew it off, and that was good enough for Gawyn (I belive her justification was something like "well, if your sister can be an Aes Sedai, you can be a Warder," which does nothing to address the conflict of interest/duties such a situation would bring). But yeah, I always wondered about why Gawyn would blow off the duties he spent most of his life being prepared for with barely a second thought. If this were any other relationship in the series, Gawyn's position in Andor would be a source or problems and compromise for the two of them, but instead...Egwene wants him to be the most subservient Warder in the history of the universe, and you KNOW he'll end up being just that 8}


That's even worse :( I was hoping it had been some sort of authorial oversight. Damn.

Re Elayne and Gawyn - it isn't at all the same thing. The status of Aes Sedai is a membership to an organisation; it doesn't come with automatic responsibilities, save that they're expected to work for the good of the Tower in whatever they do. Elayne's dual status will create problems, but it will also be of benefit to Andor. If nothing else, it helps balance out the presence of the Black Tower a stone's-throw from her capital, which any other monarch would be crapping bricks over.

A Warder is not an Aes Sedai - he is a servant. Important and valuable, yes, but still dedicated to serving one woman to the exclusion of all else. Kinda like Selucia, actually. Neither service is the type you can leave if circumstances change, or take time off from if you're needed elsewhere. When he took the bond Gawyn forsook all his other duties, apparently with only a token thought of protest. Appalling.

Though re their life together - BS has confirmed that Egwene's viewing of Gawyn's two paths - long life or violent death - has been resolved. It amuses me to think that by choosing the bond, he's actually chosen the violent death, though neither knows it yet. Maybe the next Seanchan attack will be a crushing victory, all the Aes Sedai will be collared or killed, the Tower will be razed to the ground, and Gawyn will die when he tries to free Egwene, only to find she's been damane-brainwashed and tears him to bits.

Hm. Morbid ;)

I wish, but RJ would be spinning in his grave if his pet character was given anything less than the happy ending she supposedly deserves.

God, I'm bitter :P


Arg, really, his favourite? Damn it. So much for my 'the Tower will be destroyed and a sane collection of little channeling organisations will replace it' hope.
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Egwene vs. Gawyn (ToM spoilers of course) - 28/04/2011 05:01:46 AM 4112 Views
There's fifty feet of crap between rock bottom and your post... *NM* - 28/04/2011 07:40:04 AM 502 Views
Almost three days since the last post...at least I'm trying. - 28/04/2011 12:17:59 PM 1012 Views
Sorry about that... - 28/04/2011 10:58:50 PM 1072 Views
Ah, its always good to see a good Egwene rant. Bravo! NM *NM* - 28/04/2011 01:58:46 PM 737 Views
Great work, Cannoli - 28/04/2011 02:09:28 PM 1028 Views
Regarding the mother's permission.... - 28/04/2011 07:26:29 PM 1093 Views
while i agree with you on most of this - 28/04/2011 04:53:06 PM 1156 Views
hmpf, i post a good point and nothing - 28/04/2011 11:09:53 PM 927 Views
Everybody agrees with you, that's why there were no replies *NM* - 28/04/2011 11:29:13 PM 487 Views
Here's a scary thought - 28/04/2011 11:54:50 PM 1242 Views
OMGWTFBBQ!? - 28/04/2011 11:58:37 PM 968 Views
In regards to the letters... - 28/04/2011 05:28:13 PM 1205 Views
But Gawyn was not Egwene's subject - 28/04/2011 06:09:31 PM 1004 Views
Which was why I thought it was appropriate, since he meant to act as Egwene's Warder. - 28/04/2011 06:19:53 PM 965 Views
The only issue is that Warders are not minions - they are honored junior partners. - 28/04/2011 07:39:18 PM 1129 Views
No, the junior partners are Accepted. Warders are essentially personal bodyguards and/or assistants. - 28/04/2011 08:00:17 PM 930 Views
Marriage - 28/04/2011 08:27:53 PM 946 Views
Accepted are not anything, let alone junior partners. Don't think N&E's experience was typical - 28/04/2011 09:32:22 PM 1174 Views
Here's the thing though... - 28/04/2011 11:20:32 PM 977 Views
No, but it's cute and quirky when Faile does it. - 29/04/2011 03:06:50 PM 1143 Views
But... - 29/04/2011 10:52:03 PM 938 Views
That's not really clear - 29/04/2011 11:41:20 PM 1071 Views
Actually, it is... - 30/04/2011 06:37:42 PM 1092 Views
Re: Actually, it is... - 30/04/2011 11:17:21 PM 970 Views
Didn't Siuan, Gareth and Gawyn tell her about the Bloodknife they encountered? - 02/05/2011 02:33:08 PM 975 Views
It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:10:23 PM 1278 Views
Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:25:31 PM 1204 Views
thumbs up to you both *NM* - 28/04/2011 08:45:51 PM 477 Views
Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:46:37 PM 1099 Views
Galad is a great option for a political marriage - 28/04/2011 09:04:46 PM 971 Views
Yes, but... - 28/04/2011 09:40:39 PM 1003 Views
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Exactly - 28/04/2011 10:27:04 PM 903 Views
Yes. An often overlooked point is that ELAYNE, not Egwene, gains the most power in ToM - 28/04/2011 09:42:43 PM 1356 Views
Except... - 28/04/2011 11:16:25 PM 1001 Views
Well... - 29/04/2011 12:14:42 AM 965 Views
Re: Well... - 29/04/2011 08:39:37 AM 925 Views
Except they're both really hot. - 28/04/2011 10:01:46 PM 1150 Views
They were naive - 28/04/2011 11:10:34 PM 945 Views
Re: They were naive - 29/04/2011 03:18:42 PM 1226 Views
I can only quibble; Egwene became so insufferable in ToM I'm convinced her fate will be unpleasant. - 04/05/2011 12:41:53 AM 1137 Views
Siuan... - 04/05/2011 05:42:59 AM 1112 Views
Re: Siuan screwed up big time. - 07/05/2011 03:35:46 AM 985 Views
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"McClellanesque", eh? I'll have to remember that one. - 16/05/2011 12:12:23 AM 1241 Views

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