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Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT ßelals Girl Send a noteboard - 28/04/2011 08:25:31 PM
That honour goes to Galad and Berelain, who apparently literally fell in love at first sight with nary even a word exchanged. Apparently the first time each saw the other every single braincell drained out of their heads, leaving two previously interesting characters as starstruck dribbling morons. I mean, Galad perhaps, he wouldn't know an emotion if it bit him, but Berelain? Driven, political, cynical Berelain, one of the few characters in the series who gives us political realities? I was disappointed.


I agree. This ended up being so boring. The two characters deserved better.

For what it's worth, if the world of WoT didn't have fairytale-romance-by-default, I'd bet on Gawyn and Egwene not lasting as a couple. Egwene isn't interested in people she can't use, and Gawyn is easily the most inconsistent character in the series - every major decision he's ever made, he's betrayed, or gone back on. Even by becoming Egwene's Warder, he's betrayed his first and most basic duty - to Andor, and his sister, as First Prince of the Sword, or whatever other role she wants him in. Gawyn is the brother of a reigning monarch and he is simply not free to make the decision to become a Warder, or marry as he likes. That was the price of his birth and privilege. If Elayne and her children were to die, would the line carry on through him? Meaning Andor would become even more of a White Tower vassal than it already is? Did he ever once consider this? I don't remember reading it if he did.


I believe he gave a token protest when they first talked about Egwene bonding him, but Egwene blew it off, and that was good enough for Gawyn (I belive her justification was something like "well, if your sister can be an Aes Sedai, you can be a Warder," which does nothing to address the conflict of interest/duties such a situation would bring). But yeah, I always wondered about why Gawyn would blow off the duties he spent most of his life being prepared for with barely a second thought. If this were any other relationship in the series, Gawyn's position in Andor would be a source or problems and compromise for the two of them, but instead...Egwene wants him to be the most subservient Warder in the history of the universe, and you KNOW he'll end up being just that 8}

Though re their life together - BS has confirmed that Egwene's viewing of Gawyn's two paths - long life or violent death - has been resolved. It amuses me to think that by choosing the bond, he's actually chosen the violent death, though neither knows it yet. Maybe the next Seanchan attack will be a crushing victory, all the Aes Sedai will be collared or killed, the Tower will be razed to the ground, and Gawyn will die when he tries to free Egwene, only to find she's been damane-brainwashed and tears him to bits.

Hm. Morbid ;)


I wish, but RJ would be spinning in his grave if his pet character was given anything less than the happy ending she supposedly deserves.

God, I'm bitter :P
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Egwene vs. Gawyn (ToM spoilers of course) - 28/04/2011 05:01:46 AM 3979 Views
There's fifty feet of crap between rock bottom and your post... *NM* - 28/04/2011 07:40:04 AM 474 Views
Almost three days since the last post...at least I'm trying. - 28/04/2011 12:17:59 PM 944 Views
Sorry about that... - 28/04/2011 10:58:50 PM 1005 Views
Ah, its always good to see a good Egwene rant. Bravo! NM *NM* - 28/04/2011 01:58:46 PM 712 Views
Great work, Cannoli - 28/04/2011 02:09:28 PM 957 Views
Regarding the mother's permission.... - 28/04/2011 07:26:29 PM 1023 Views
while i agree with you on most of this - 28/04/2011 04:53:06 PM 1087 Views
hmpf, i post a good point and nothing - 28/04/2011 11:09:53 PM 865 Views
Everybody agrees with you, that's why there were no replies *NM* - 28/04/2011 11:29:13 PM 462 Views
Here's a scary thought - 28/04/2011 11:54:50 PM 1169 Views
OMGWTFBBQ!? - 28/04/2011 11:58:37 PM 926 Views
In regards to the letters... - 28/04/2011 05:28:13 PM 1133 Views
But Gawyn was not Egwene's subject - 28/04/2011 06:09:31 PM 944 Views
Which was why I thought it was appropriate, since he meant to act as Egwene's Warder. - 28/04/2011 06:19:53 PM 904 Views
The only issue is that Warders are not minions - they are honored junior partners. - 28/04/2011 07:39:18 PM 1063 Views
No, the junior partners are Accepted. Warders are essentially personal bodyguards and/or assistants. - 28/04/2011 08:00:17 PM 860 Views
Marriage - 28/04/2011 08:27:53 PM 887 Views
Accepted are not anything, let alone junior partners. Don't think N&E's experience was typical - 28/04/2011 09:32:22 PM 1092 Views
Here's the thing though... - 28/04/2011 11:20:32 PM 913 Views
No, but it's cute and quirky when Faile does it. - 29/04/2011 03:06:50 PM 1080 Views
But... - 29/04/2011 10:52:03 PM 876 Views
That's not really clear - 29/04/2011 11:41:20 PM 1006 Views
Actually, it is... - 30/04/2011 06:37:42 PM 1022 Views
Re: Actually, it is... - 30/04/2011 11:17:21 PM 899 Views
Didn't Siuan, Gareth and Gawyn tell her about the Bloodknife they encountered? - 02/05/2011 02:33:08 PM 907 Views
It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:10:23 PM 1212 Views
Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:25:31 PM 1133 Views
thumbs up to you both *NM* - 28/04/2011 08:45:51 PM 445 Views
Re: It isn't the worst romance in WoT - 28/04/2011 08:46:37 PM 1030 Views
Galad is a great option for a political marriage - 28/04/2011 09:04:46 PM 896 Views
Yes, but... - 28/04/2011 09:40:39 PM 942 Views
but galad knew nothing of berelain's closeness to rand, so that couldn't have affected anything - 28/04/2011 10:12:23 PM 976 Views
Exactly - 28/04/2011 10:27:04 PM 823 Views
Yes. An often overlooked point is that ELAYNE, not Egwene, gains the most power in ToM - 28/04/2011 09:42:43 PM 1278 Views
Except... - 28/04/2011 11:16:25 PM 936 Views
Well... - 29/04/2011 12:14:42 AM 887 Views
Re: Well... - 29/04/2011 08:39:37 AM 877 Views
Except they're both really hot. - 28/04/2011 10:01:46 PM 1071 Views
They were naive - 28/04/2011 11:10:34 PM 900 Views
Re: They were naive - 29/04/2011 03:18:42 PM 1144 Views
I can only quibble; Egwene became so insufferable in ToM I'm convinced her fate will be unpleasant. - 04/05/2011 12:41:53 AM 1045 Views
Siuan... - 04/05/2011 05:42:59 AM 1045 Views
Re: Siuan screwed up big time. - 07/05/2011 03:35:46 AM 914 Views
Re: Siuan screwed up big time. - 12/05/2011 02:13:08 PM 903 Views
"McClellanesque", eh? I'll have to remember that one. - 16/05/2011 12:12:23 AM 1178 Views

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