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Various comments Etzel Send a noteboard - 19/09/2009 05:38:21 PM
Nice! Enjoyed the prologue very much.

The "impossible" Storm is obviously created by the DO. So, does the DO actually want that the humans go north, so that the Trolloc army can kill them? Or are the people drawn north due to ta'veren/Wheel-effect?

The Seanchan will yet become more convinced that the Shadow is the enemy (Tylee already thought about an alliance), after the Trolloc attack and the news that Anath was a Forsaken. This will finally lead to the alliance, IMO even before the Seanchan attack the WT. If Semirhage tells Rand that Mesaana is in the WT and that many AS are working for the Shadow (as Mesaana states it at the meeting), I believe Rand will press for a liberation of the WT.

It seems Mesaana is indeed an AS, though I still don't really see why Alviarin thinks then that her true voice and face are familiar.

The idea that Moridin voluntarily created the link between him and Rand becomes even more far-fetched, after we saw yet again that Moridin suffers, when Rand suffers. This is obviously the reason why Moridin wasn't at the Cleansing or doesn't want Rand harmed. Moridin fears that this could backfire at him. Therefore Moridin also didn't send the Trolloc army in KoD. In the end, Rand will certainly use this link to kill Moridin.

I was surprised, though, that Semirhage lost all of the DO's favour and that she actually was too incompetent to capture Rand in KoD. Now the only Forsaken who have still a high standing are Moridin, Graendal and Demandred.

I believe Graendal will soon send assassins to kill people in Rand's party like Bashere, and also Ituralde to create chaos (he is the dying man in a bed from Egwene's Dream).

By the way, it's interesting that we have yet another Graendal PoV ajnd once again she doesn't think about killing Asmo (though she thinks about other Forsaken and her standing). That is addressed at those Graendaldunnits who believe that Slayer MUST of course have thought of Asmo in his single, short PoV , if he was the killer..

As often said in the past, I believe Demandred controlled Masema. This explains Sammael's comment about Demandred's "friends" in the south. Besides that, he likely controls the King of Murandy who gaters an army at the moment. Demandred's statement that he wants to kill Rand, supports the idea that Demandred didn't send Slayer as the patron in WH )IMO it was osan'gar) and that Aran'gar posed as Demandred to send the DF Asha'man to kill Rand. It's also clear that Demandred didn't send that Trolloc army in KoD. It was either done by Graendal or Semirhage.
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TGS Prologue - your thoughts (part 2) *spoilers* - 16/09/2009 04:55:21 AM 3268 Views
Where can i find it at? Can someone give me a link? *NM* - 18/09/2009 02:21:10 AM 215 Views
mobipocket.com - 18/09/2009 02:53:13 AM 668 Views
Thanks, It was interesting especially the last part of the prologue *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:42:28 AM 266 Views
Yep, to be truthful I really didn't see that coming. *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:03:12 AM 213 Views
A pointless survey - take your guess at who wrote what of the Prologue - 18/09/2009 01:30:24 PM 568 Views
As short as the prologue was - 18/09/2009 04:27:54 PM 577 Views
Re: A pointless survey - take your guess at who wrote what of the Prologue - 18/09/2009 07:08:43 PM 442 Views
How do you think this prologue compares to the previous ones? - 18/09/2009 01:52:59 PM 533 Views
Did only the audiobook ppl get the 2:30 of Harriet at the end? - 18/09/2009 03:07:27 PM 566 Views
nope and now I hate you *NM* - 18/09/2009 04:59:48 PM 307 Views
The interview - 18/09/2009 09:40:23 PM 596 Views
The prologue gives us strong evidence that Graendal is weaker than Demi or Semi - 18/09/2009 03:55:58 PM 647 Views
Well, Lanfear... - 20/09/2009 11:33:22 PM 621 Views
Is it me or do the Forsaken seem more viscious? - 18/09/2009 04:17:22 PM 636 Views
yep, leaner and meaner...except for mesaana-she's still twitchy after shadar haran *NM* - 18/09/2009 05:09:29 PM 316 Views
You blame her? *NM* - 18/09/2009 08:05:46 PM 254 Views
Not at all, I'd be more than "twitchy" if that happened to me - 19/09/2009 12:00:57 AM 520 Views
I get the feeling they want to jump ship - 19/09/2009 02:13:51 PM 589 Views
Trollocs! - 18/09/2009 05:35:12 PM 640 Views
Why not a gray man then? - 18/09/2009 07:52:55 PM 654 Views
I'm going to guess it was Demandred - 18/09/2009 08:12:19 PM 591 Views
What Cache is in Ebou Dar? - 19/09/2009 12:05:05 AM 618 Views
Because they wanted to destroy as much of the force as possible - 19/09/2009 12:07:57 AM 523 Views
But there's no plausible deniability - 19/09/2009 12:50:42 AM 572 Views
But even several grey men or slayer aren't going to get the deed done - 19/09/2009 02:28:36 AM 596 Views
Why? - 19/09/2009 03:25:34 AM 509 Views
simple answer:scouts - 19/09/2009 04:47:04 AM 530 Views
What day is it? Are the Suldam & Damane in the area? - 19/09/2009 05:32:54 PM 479 Views
Who is Graendal going to wack? - 18/09/2009 06:00:12 PM 600 Views
I think it could be Tam. *NM* - 18/09/2009 06:05:12 PM 283 Views
Great idea. - 18/09/2009 07:12:40 PM 558 Views
No one. - 23/09/2009 02:05:06 AM 472 Views
A possibility, but... - 23/09/2009 11:53:07 AM 520 Views
Well, yeah... - 23/09/2009 04:02:47 PM 507 Views
Isn't it obvious...Semirhage sent the Trollocs - 18/09/2009 06:38:15 PM 648 Views
Fades are smart enough though - 18/09/2009 07:54:02 PM 493 Views
Mesaana's statement gives us a big clue about Demandred's and Moridin's whereabouts - 18/09/2009 09:11:49 PM 695 Views
Or - 18/09/2009 10:38:52 PM 673 Views
My first thought was - 19/09/2009 02:20:39 AM 545 Views
My favorite quote: "Who will win? The child or the fool?" - Graendal - 18/09/2009 09:48:55 PM 655 Views
*NM* - 19/09/2009 04:20:29 AM 358 Views
but she didn't say 'the fool or the fool' - 19/09/2009 02:07:20 PM 560 Views
Yes, because Cannoli has long valued the opinions of the Forsaken... - 20/09/2009 06:10:58 AM 619 Views
Lol *NM* - 20/09/2009 08:26:53 AM 489 Views
Forsaken Chapter - 18/09/2009 10:30:10 PM 621 Views
I agree that Graendal will die in this book.... her and A'rangar *NM* - 19/09/2009 08:14:07 AM 259 Views
Re: Forsaken Chapter - 19/09/2009 09:53:31 AM 648 Views
Wrong... - 19/09/2009 01:41:25 PM 676 Views
I think we'll have to agree to disagree. - 19/09/2009 09:22:38 PM 694 Views
Huh - 19/09/2009 01:46:21 PM 755 Views
Re: Huh - 19/09/2009 02:21:43 PM 658 Views
Re: Huh - 19/09/2009 04:32:50 PM 678 Views
Fair enough... - 19/09/2009 05:08:33 PM 600 Views
Re: Forsaken Chapter - 19/09/2009 05:40:14 PM 530 Views
No, see my response to Agent Orange above. *NM* - 19/09/2009 06:07:14 PM 231 Views
Remove your blinders man... - 19/09/2009 07:16:03 PM 668 Views
After third reread - 18/09/2009 10:58:12 PM 598 Views
Ituralde's plan - 19/09/2009 02:04:58 PM 510 Views
Huh....hadn't thought about that - 19/09/2009 03:07:06 PM 616 Views
This makes perfect sense - 22/09/2009 07:35:49 PM 518 Views
Various comments - 19/09/2009 05:38:21 PM 640 Views
The Dying Man - 19/09/2009 06:48:09 PM 582 Views
Yeah, I thought it was Dobraine as well - 19/09/2009 08:30:13 PM 596 Views
Dobraine seems unlikely... - 20/09/2009 11:30:45 AM 488 Views
Symbolism - 20/09/2009 04:10:53 PM 467 Views
After a reread I think I know who sent the Trollocs - 19/09/2009 08:28:08 PM 547 Views
That is a really stupid idea - 20/09/2009 01:20:09 AM 511 Views
Yeah - 20/09/2009 08:24:18 AM 508 Views
Another reason why Moridin is not Taim - 19/09/2009 08:41:03 PM 531 Views
This isn't evidence. - 19/09/2009 08:51:54 PM 644 Views
It isn't evidence, but it is another perspective to add to the table - 19/09/2009 09:11:15 PM 440 Views
Personally, I disagree. - 20/09/2009 03:22:24 AM 542 Views
Do you think Moridin is struggling like Rand is? - 19/09/2009 10:24:45 PM 453 Views
Re: Do you think Moridin is struggling like Rand is? - 19/09/2009 11:29:36 PM 530 Views
Why is Moridin and not Demandred marshalling the Dark Forces in the Blight? - 19/09/2009 10:35:06 PM 527 Views
I think there are many issues here - 19/09/2009 10:51:13 PM 635 Views
The Malign Influence of the Forsaken - 19/09/2009 11:08:00 PM 547 Views
I have doubts about that degree of conversion - 19/09/2009 11:17:44 PM 485 Views
Its a stretch, but... - 19/09/2009 11:34:28 PM 439 Views
I thought about that - 20/09/2009 08:26:02 AM 481 Views
Levee en Masse - 19/09/2009 10:51:54 PM 551 Views
I think Demendred might take over though - 20/09/2009 05:10:08 PM 440 Views
Did Demandred make the connection between Moridin's phantom hand-pain and Semirhage's firebolt? - 20/09/2009 12:11:32 PM 633 Views
I don't think that Demandred will be a key player at the end with Rand - 20/09/2009 01:00:58 PM 590 Views
Some sweeping statements there... - 20/09/2009 01:21:46 PM 580 Views
Not at all - 20/09/2009 03:34:59 PM 604 Views
A lot of twisting my words there, and direct contradictions of your own points... - 20/09/2009 04:19:57 PM 611 Views
Not really - 20/09/2009 05:12:42 PM 674 Views
I couldn't have summarized it better myself... - 20/09/2009 05:25:56 PM 501 Views
But... - 20/09/2009 06:01:33 PM 601 Views
Possible... - 20/09/2009 06:08:21 PM 513 Views
So that's your argument now? - 20/09/2009 07:35:52 PM 431 Views
I think you took that the wrong way... - 20/09/2009 08:53:28 PM 517 Views
Its simply, really. - 20/09/2009 09:05:42 PM 529 Views
Hmmm... - 20/09/2009 11:10:04 PM 559 Views
Fair enough... - 20/09/2009 11:12:53 PM 428 Views
Sure. *NM* - 20/09/2009 11:25:50 PM 255 Views
Wow, then I think you're in for a surprise - 20/09/2009 08:38:37 PM 494 Views
Well - 20/09/2009 08:56:43 PM 573 Views
Re: Well - 20/09/2009 09:40:51 PM 650 Views
Re: Wow, then I think you're in for a surprise - 20/09/2009 09:07:48 PM 486 Views
Just a general comment... - 20/09/2009 09:13:51 PM 650 Views
Re: Just a general comment... - 20/09/2009 09:59:51 PM 1460 Views
Re: Just a general comment... - 20/09/2009 10:19:14 PM 461 Views
Re: Just a general comment... - 21/09/2009 04:58:38 AM 416 Views
I reject the cult of the "cool" villain. - 20/09/2009 11:24:40 PM 534 Views
I don't really agree - 21/09/2009 05:02:10 AM 484 Views
But these aren't criminals... - 21/09/2009 05:47:40 AM 417 Views
No, just the most heinous criminals imaginable - 21/09/2009 12:43:19 PM 624 Views
Re: No, just the most heinous criminals imaginable - 22/09/2009 10:49:58 PM 547 Views
Doubt it... - 20/09/2009 02:10:37 PM 596 Views
I tend to agree with you, this time. - 20/09/2009 05:05:35 PM 485 Views

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