I guess it's a toss up between Tear, Illian and Amador
rAndy aL Send a noteboard - 19/09/2009 12:28:24 PM
...Tylin's accomodation with them is suggested to be the course of wisdom and sensibility, while Beslan's resistance is portrayed as hot-headed foolishness.
That's not really the impression I got from that. Or at the very least, it was a case of Mat being a hypocrite so I'm not going to judge Beslan's portrayal from Mat's thoughts. Or from the girls, if they had any opinions on the matter.
Even Rand al'Thor, the supposed epitome and redeemer of masculine power in the world of WoT has an all-female entourage. The few males he had kept around previously have gone off on their own agendas and missions (in addition to having formally subservient roles to their wives), leaving him alone with Cadsuane, Alivia, Nynaeve and Min. Bashere and Logain are the closest to male henchmen he has left, but they are off doing their leadership things, and Logain bad-mouths Rand to women repeatedly and is the most pro-Aes Sedai male who is not a Warder in the entire series! One might look upon his ridiculous love-life as some sort of male power statement, having three women so desperate for his attention and affection they will even encourage him to indulge himself with the others, but even in a normal relationship, the woman has the man outnumbered: two boobs to one. Rand MIGHT have been able to be the dominant partner in a relationship with one woman. Not a prayer with three.
Actually, that's interesting because the main reason all Rand's male henchmen are doing jobs, but his female henchwomen arn't is because he refuses to send them out. Sure, if they can come up with something to do then he won't stop them, but if Rand wants something done then he goes straight to Mat, Perrin, Bashere or an Ashaman.
All this reinforces the strong theme of female dominance in the world of WoT, of which RJ seems to also being saying: "They have so many advantages normally - look at how insane it gets when we hadn over politics too!"
So with all this in mind? What culture or nation do you see as being the most male-friendly and which one do you see as the most restrictive on women in general (as opposed to customs or laws that restrict specific groups such as female channelers - in other words, I am trying to avoid answers like "The Aiel/Sea Folk/Seanchan are the most restrictive to women because all female channelers are forced to choose the same profession." )?
So with all this in mind? What culture or nation do you see as being the most male-friendly and which one do you see as the most restrictive on women in general (as opposed to customs or laws that restrict specific groups such as female channelers - in other words, I am trying to avoid answers like "The Aiel/Sea Folk/Seanchan are the most restrictive to women because all female channelers are forced to choose the same profession." )?
I guess it's either Tear, Illian or Amador (guess which countries were the least fleshed out). Tear has the Farm-girls thing and Amador has witch
What do you consider to be the most pro-masculine culture/country in WoT? The most anti-female?
19/09/2009 07:32:03 AM
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I guess it's a toss up between Tear, Illian and Amador
19/09/2009 12:28:24 PM
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What about male-only organizations?
19/09/2009 02:00:55 PM
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Yeah, Aiel warrior societies.
19/09/2009 03:44:36 PM
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Women are probably not up to the functions of the other societies physically.
21/09/2009 06:10:14 AM
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Hm, you never do see a female Whitecloak. Do they ever talk about why?
20/09/2009 04:11:30 PM
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I was taking you seriously
19/09/2009 03:29:16 PM
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So a post has to be ALL humor or none? I was kidding on the square anyway.
21/09/2009 06:13:40 AM
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No question.
19/09/2009 08:43:47 PM
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Well the Amadicia thing is really just a function of the channeling. The Children are like the Reds
21/09/2009 07:10:16 AM
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Re: Well the Amadicia thing is really just a function of the channeling...
28/09/2009 06:24:19 PM
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The ogier all have masculine features.
19/09/2009 09:06:14 PM
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Do you have anything against paragraphs? *NM*
20/09/2009 10:03:48 PM
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I agree, but I also think there is a purpose.
21/09/2009 03:43:45 AM
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I think the Shienaran custom of protecting women is both patronizing and submissive ATST. *NM*
21/09/2009 02:33:58 PM
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