There has been a lot of speculation as to who sent the trollocs, but I'm not particularily concerned with that. I'm more concerned with where they are and why.
At first glance Ebou Dar and the Seanchan seems like a counter productive target for the trollocs. The Seanchan believe trollocs to be imaginary boogie men used to scare kids. Why would the Shadow want to A) blow the surprise. I don't think the force is very large, certainly not on the scale of the 100K that attacked Rand. I would think that it would only anger the Seanchan and strengthen their resolve, not sow chaos and despair. B) more importantly I think it very likely that the early use of trollocs could force the Seanchan towards the Westlanders. At least the Westlanders are human!
I also don't think the Shadow is that dumb. I think there was a specific objective ie Tylee and her force. It is certainly concieveable that there are Shadow spies in her force. If so the Shadow probably knows of Tylee's admiration of Perrin and his abilities. If I were the Shadow I wouldn't want that kind of thing to spread, I'd want the two sides ready to tear out each other's throats. I'd try to make sure that Tylee and command structure didn't survive to make it back to Ebou Dar to be debriefed. Hence the trollocs. Get Tylee, get her commanders, and as many of her force as possible and you've eliminated a possible thorn in your side. The trollocs were specifically sent to ambush her force, kill her eradicate any kind of respect/admiration/good feelings towards the Westlanders.
So what do you think?
NaCl(that's my story and I'm sticking to it)H2O
At first glance Ebou Dar and the Seanchan seems like a counter productive target for the trollocs. The Seanchan believe trollocs to be imaginary boogie men used to scare kids. Why would the Shadow want to A) blow the surprise. I don't think the force is very large, certainly not on the scale of the 100K that attacked Rand. I would think that it would only anger the Seanchan and strengthen their resolve, not sow chaos and despair. B) more importantly I think it very likely that the early use of trollocs could force the Seanchan towards the Westlanders. At least the Westlanders are human!
I also don't think the Shadow is that dumb. I think there was a specific objective ie Tylee and her force. It is certainly concieveable that there are Shadow spies in her force. If so the Shadow probably knows of Tylee's admiration of Perrin and his abilities. If I were the Shadow I wouldn't want that kind of thing to spread, I'd want the two sides ready to tear out each other's throats. I'd try to make sure that Tylee and command structure didn't survive to make it back to Ebou Dar to be debriefed. Hence the trollocs. Get Tylee, get her commanders, and as many of her force as possible and you've eliminated a possible thorn in your side. The trollocs were specifically sent to ambush her force, kill her eradicate any kind of respect/admiration/good feelings towards the Westlanders.
So what do you think?
NaCl(that's my story and I'm sticking to it)H2O
If the object is to kill Tylee and her top brass why not use a gray man or slayer. Hell, even a few myrddraal popping out of the shadows would be good.
They're only a day's march from Ebou Dar, there's a big risk that someone could escape back to the city and warn them. I have to believe this is the opening move in a major campaign against the Seanchan. After all it makes sense to attack the Seanchan base in the South while most of their men are fighting in Illian and Arad Doman. I wouldn't be surprised if Amador is attacked as well
When the Wolf King carries the hammer, thus are the final days known. When the fox marries the raven, and the trumpets of battle are blown.
TGS Prologue - your thoughts (part 2) *spoilers*
16/09/2009 04:55:21 AM
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Where can i find it at? Can someone give me a link? *NM*
18/09/2009 02:21:10 AM
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mobipocket.com
18/09/2009 02:53:13 AM
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Thanks, It was interesting especially the last part of the prologue *NM*
20/09/2009 02:42:28 AM
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A pointless survey - take your guess at who wrote what of the Prologue
18/09/2009 01:30:24 PM
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Re: A pointless survey - take your guess at who wrote what of the Prologue
18/09/2009 07:08:43 PM
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The prologue gives us strong evidence that Graendal is weaker than Demi or Semi
18/09/2009 03:55:58 PM
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I'm a little surprised nobody is discussing this. I thought this would get more attention. *NM*
20/09/2009 09:17:57 PM
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Is it me or do the Forsaken seem more viscious?
18/09/2009 04:17:22 PM
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yep, leaner and meaner...except for mesaana-she's still twitchy after shadar haran *NM*
18/09/2009 05:09:29 PM
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Trollocs!
18/09/2009 05:35:12 PM
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Why not a gray man then?
18/09/2009 07:52:55 PM
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Because they wanted to destroy as much of the force as possible
19/09/2009 12:07:57 AM
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But there's no plausible deniability
19/09/2009 12:50:42 AM
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But even several grey men or slayer aren't going to get the deed done
19/09/2009 02:28:36 AM
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Who is Graendal going to wack?
18/09/2009 06:00:12 PM
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I think it could be Tam. *NM*
18/09/2009 06:05:12 PM
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Great idea.
18/09/2009 07:12:40 PM
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Its about time for Perrin to reunite with Rand he's got Faile back
18/09/2009 08:15:47 PM
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Re: Its about time for Perrin to reunite with Rand he's got Faile back
18/09/2009 10:41:12 PM
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Mesaana's statement gives us a big clue about Demandred's and Moridin's whereabouts
18/09/2009 09:11:49 PM
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My favorite quote: "Who will win? The child or the fool?" - Graendal
18/09/2009 09:48:55 PM
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but she didn't say 'the fool or the fool'
19/09/2009 02:07:20 PM
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Yes, because Cannoli has long valued the opinions of the Forsaken...
20/09/2009 06:10:58 AM
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Forsaken Chapter
18/09/2009 10:30:10 PM
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I agree that Graendal will die in this book.... her and A'rangar *NM*
19/09/2009 08:14:07 AM
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Various comments
19/09/2009 05:38:21 PM
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The Dying Man
19/09/2009 06:48:09 PM
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After a reread I think I know who sent the Trollocs
19/09/2009 08:28:08 PM
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Another reason why Moridin is not Taim
19/09/2009 08:41:03 PM
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This isn't evidence.
19/09/2009 08:51:54 PM
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It isn't evidence, but it is another perspective to add to the table
19/09/2009 09:11:15 PM
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Why is Moridin and not Demandred marshalling the Dark Forces in the Blight?
19/09/2009 10:35:06 PM
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I think there are many issues here
19/09/2009 10:51:13 PM
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The Malign Influence of the Forsaken
19/09/2009 11:08:00 PM
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I have doubts about that degree of conversion
19/09/2009 11:17:44 PM
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Re: Why is Moridin and not Demandred marshalling the Dark Forces in the Blight?
20/09/2009 09:44:06 AM
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Did Demandred make the connection between Moridin's phantom hand-pain and Semirhage's firebolt?
20/09/2009 12:11:32 PM
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I don't think that Demandred will be a key player at the end with Rand
20/09/2009 01:00:58 PM
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Some sweeping statements there...
20/09/2009 01:21:46 PM
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Not at all
20/09/2009 03:34:59 PM
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A lot of twisting my words there, and direct contradictions of your own points...
20/09/2009 04:19:57 PM
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Not really
20/09/2009 05:12:42 PM
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I couldn't have summarized it better myself...
20/09/2009 05:25:56 PM
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But...
20/09/2009 06:01:33 PM
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Possible...
20/09/2009 06:08:21 PM
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So that's your argument now?
20/09/2009 07:35:52 PM
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I think you took that the wrong way...
20/09/2009 08:53:28 PM
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Wow, then I think you're in for a surprise
20/09/2009 08:38:37 PM
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Just a general comment...
20/09/2009 09:13:51 PM
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Re: Just a general comment...
20/09/2009 09:59:51 PM
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I reject the cult of the "cool" villain.
20/09/2009 11:24:40 PM
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I don't really agree
21/09/2009 05:02:10 AM
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But these aren't criminals...
21/09/2009 05:47:40 AM
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