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Well, until I have time to return to your previous post but... DomA Send a noteboard - 01/03/2011 07:45:13 PM
If a Pléiade edition says that it is "broché" instead of "relié", what is that going to look like? The things are still damn expensive and I'm trying to figure out how they justify it.


That ought to be a mistake on the site, they're all the same and they're all bound the same way (even their yearly album which is just bigger - it's a nice coffee table book about the new author introduced that year, but those are in-store only (that I've ever noticed) gift during their annual promotion period. All volumes are 20% off for a month (the same one they release the new book) and you need to buy 2 or 3 volumes to get the album. They're pretty sought after, supplies never last for very long).
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Can someone explain to me how Jordan is not a particularly good writer? newyorkersedai - 21/02/2011 05:41:31 PM 3432 Views
I personally see it as more of RJ being a fantastic story teller, but not a well structured writer. darius_sedai - 21/02/2011 06:44:21 PM 1852 Views
Re: I personally see it as more of RJ being a fantastic story teller, but not a well structured Lo'oris - 22/02/2011 10:59:25 PM 1512 Views
What do you think about the Southern Gothic authors? Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 08:08:26 AM 1345 Views
Re: What do you think about the Southern Gothic authors? Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 10:51:57 AM 1425 Views
Oh, it really depends. Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 05:39:07 PM 1214 Views
thanks, I'll have a look *NM* Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 05:40:50 PM 908 Views
For the same reason that most people think they have above average intelligence. RabidWombat - 21/02/2011 11:13:34 PM 1847 Views
Thank you. Nargs - 21/02/2011 11:43:08 PM 1547 Views
Re: For the same reason that most people think they have above average intelligence. *NM* Gerbeaud - 22/02/2011 02:39:20 PM 1011 Views
Re: For the same reason that most people think they have above average intelligence. Gerbeaud - 22/02/2011 02:41:37 PM 1295 Views
Well Said! Evil_Monkey - 22/02/2011 02:42:22 PM 1509 Views
That's possibly the best explanation of literary criticism I've ever seen. The Count - 23/02/2011 02:47:12 AM 1410 Views
I can take a shot at that, since nobody else seems willing to. Ghavrel - 22/02/2011 07:29:20 AM 1893 Views
Do you enjoy reading Robert Jordan's ... Nargs - 22/02/2011 04:31:28 PM 1579 Views
Not particularly. Ghavrel - 22/02/2011 10:22:00 PM 1701 Views
Agreed. Tom - 22/02/2011 10:37:08 PM 1387 Views
Re: I can take a shot at that, since nobody else seems willing to. Lo'oris - 22/02/2011 11:23:38 PM 1537 Views
That has very little to do with anything unless you can provide a real-world analogy to a channeler. Ghavrel - 22/02/2011 11:30:52 PM 1407 Views
Re: That has very little to do with anything unless you can provide a real-world analogy to a Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 12:02:24 AM 1423 Views
As far as I'm concerned, the only way to gauge whether an author is good or not is ... Velveti - 22/02/2011 03:58:17 PM 1448 Views
Amen *NM* Nargs - 22/02/2011 04:32:50 PM 875 Views
Re: Can someone explain to me how Jordan is not a particularly good writer? DomA - 22/02/2011 06:27:11 PM 2314 Views
Brain overload! This is really well thought out. RabidWombat - 23/02/2011 10:22:37 PM 1486 Views
thank you for the insight into the outside view lol Onarishma - 24/02/2011 04:34:57 PM 1491 Views
I think it has more to do with limitations imposed by how the story was organized and edited. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/02/2011 07:50:18 PM 1754 Views
That's interesting, and I have a weird agree/disagree here; also, that Adam Roberts sucks newyorkersedai - 23/02/2011 02:15:12 AM 1516 Views
Re: That's interesting, and I have a weird agree/disagree here; also, that Adam Roberts sucks Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 11:02:14 AM 1471 Views
adam roberts reviews uglycat - 23/02/2011 03:53:49 AM 1533 Views
And I suspect those who prefer the BS books are those who largely read WoT for the story. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 08:06:16 AM 867 Views
Oh GAWD!... not another pointer to Robert Adam's incoherant muckraking HyogaRott - 24/02/2011 07:47:35 PM 1355 Views
I think DomA answered the question best, but the "do you like it" argument is weak. Tom - 22/02/2011 10:32:51 PM 1742 Views
Re: I think DomA answered the question best, but the "do you like it" argument is weak. Lo'oris - 22/02/2011 11:16:24 PM 1655 Views
The Necronomicon isn't actually a book, you know. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/02/2011 11:28:29 PM 808 Views
There are nine, actually... Lo'oris - 23/02/2011 12:04:55 AM 1634 Views
Lovecraft's Necronomicon was fictitious. If you want to count fanfiction, fine. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 12:38:07 AM 881 Views
Based on how poorly worded that response was, I'm not sure what to think of it. *NM* Tom - 23/02/2011 12:13:00 AM 887 Views
I hope I am misunderstanding you. Stephen - 23/02/2011 10:57:47 PM 1305 Views
Re: I hope I am misunderstanding you. Lo'oris - 24/02/2011 10:41:09 AM 1458 Views
If the core of the story is all that matters, why read a book Stephen - 24/02/2011 10:32:01 PM 1426 Views
Re: If the core of the story is all that matters, why read a book Lo'oris - 24/02/2011 11:23:42 PM 1330 Views
So wait, style is good? Stephen - 25/02/2011 12:32:07 AM 1659 Views
Re: So wait, style is good? Lo'oris - 25/02/2011 08:53:55 AM 1281 Views
I'm not trolling Stephen - 25/02/2011 11:57:18 PM 1300 Views
That depends... DomA - 23/02/2011 03:00:35 AM 1576 Views
I didn't say aesthetics was the primary criterion. I named three criteria. Tom - 23/02/2011 05:39:03 AM 1455 Views
the "do you like it" is the most important criterion RabidWombat - 23/02/2011 10:45:17 PM 1415 Views
Re: the "do you like it" is the most important criterion DomA - 24/02/2011 01:53:59 AM 1394 Views
Thumbs up - IMHO, all discussion can end here Nargs - 28/02/2011 05:45:34 PM 1522 Views
Not for quality of writing. Tom - 24/02/2011 05:17:52 PM 1378 Views
Those who can do, the rest are critics. *NM* HyogaRott - 24/02/2011 07:55:50 PM 887 Views
I object, sir! People don't read WoT for the way it's told? newyorkersedai - 24/02/2011 12:58:58 AM 1457 Views
If you don't mind me asking... Fanatic-Templar - 24/02/2011 01:05:12 AM 1294 Views
Re: If you don't mind me asking... DomA - 24/02/2011 02:19:17 AM 1327 Views
I still don't get it. Fanatic-Templar - 24/02/2011 08:27:50 AM 1257 Views
Re: If you don't mind me asking... Lo'oris - 24/02/2011 11:29:14 PM 1317 Views
I don't mind that you ask, but I'm not going to engage in a defense of literature. Tom - 24/02/2011 05:35:27 PM 1269 Views
Re: I don't mind that you ask, but I'm not going to engage in a defense of literature. Lo'oris - 24/02/2011 11:26:55 PM 1384 Views
I'm sure you have a wonderful job awaiting in fast food service. Tom - 25/02/2011 01:57:15 AM 1438 Views
Re: I'm sure you have a wonderful job awaiting in fast food service. Lo'oris - 25/02/2011 08:56:06 AM 1363 Views
Jack @$$ snobbery at its best. WOW *NM* Nargs - 28/02/2011 05:48:43 PM 883 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 25/02/2011 01:07:22 AM 1273 Views
Maybe you should have used better prose? fionwe1987 - 25/02/2011 01:23:17 AM 1150 Views
It is not a serious question. Tom - 25/02/2011 01:53:59 AM 1352 Views
How so? fionwe1987 - 25/02/2011 02:59:05 AM 1447 Views
I have every right to use that tone. Tom - 25/02/2011 03:08:14 PM 1362 Views
Is that so? Fanatic-Templar - 25/02/2011 05:58:31 AM 1466 Views
I'm not fixated with Jordan. Tom - 25/02/2011 03:13:56 PM 1386 Views
Then why do you keep trying to qualify the passage in relation to him? Fanatic-Templar - 25/02/2011 06:29:31 PM 1421 Views
You're conflating two things. Tom - 25/02/2011 07:32:59 PM 1466 Views
All right, now we're getting somewhere. Fanatic-Templar - 26/02/2011 12:40:57 AM 1365 Views
you raise very good questions... *NM* Nargs - 26/02/2011 09:21:13 AM 815 Views
Okay, here you go. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt as to your sincerity. Tom - 26/02/2011 03:20:44 PM 1198 Views
Thank you, and I agree with all your explanations. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 26/02/2011 07:28:09 PM 813 Views
Glad to hear that. Tom - 27/02/2011 03:42:33 AM 1270 Views
No problem, these things happen on the internet. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 27/02/2011 04:36:57 AM 845 Views
No, it is a serious question, just one that can never be seriously answered. HyogaRott - 25/02/2011 03:28:48 PM 1361 Views
Your opinion isn't as valid as anyone else's if that's your opinion. Tom - 25/02/2011 04:44:57 PM 1495 Views
Re: Your opinion isn't as valid as anyone else's if that's your opinion. HyogaRott - 25/02/2011 06:05:18 PM 1864 Views
I'm not wasting my time proving something to an internet moron and troll like you. Tom - 25/02/2011 07:36:19 PM 1247 Views
Ah yes, the wonderful "dissmiss the person who disagrees with me by insulting him tactic" HyogaRott - 28/02/2011 02:30:35 PM 1252 Views
Re: Your opinion isn't as valid as anyone else's if that's your opinion. Lo'oris - 26/02/2011 11:06:26 AM 1260 Views
Jack @$$ snobbery at its best. WOW *NM* Nargs - 28/02/2011 05:51:48 PM 736 Views
double post. oh my! *NM* Nargs - 28/02/2011 05:52:17 PM 760 Views
Just makes you right twice *NM* HyogaRott - 28/02/2011 09:42:19 PM 882 Views
Re: ... Lo'oris - 25/02/2011 08:59:37 AM 1342 Views
And part 2, on the analysis of writing. newyorkersedai - 24/02/2011 01:16:20 AM 1390 Views
Florid desciption is usually not a good thing. Tom - 24/02/2011 05:30:30 PM 1314 Views
Re: I find this whole thing elitist and more than a bit silly GarethBryne - 23/02/2011 06:45:05 AM 1520 Views
Why do you think mind-expanding literature is restricted to the classics? Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 08:03:59 AM 1270 Views
Re: Why do you think mind-expanding literature is restricted to the classics? GarethBryne - 23/02/2011 09:25:10 AM 1474 Views
Of course people read for pleasure. Ghavrel - 23/02/2011 09:04:24 PM 1275 Views
Ok... Nargs - 24/02/2011 08:59:27 AM 1290 Views
"Yeah well, that's, like, just your opinion, man." Good argument. Ghavrel - 24/02/2011 03:43:24 PM 1402 Views
*NM* Tom - 24/02/2011 05:37:02 PM 776 Views
I find your above average tastes and intelligence uninspiring. Nargs - 24/02/2011 08:42:03 PM 1225 Views
I'm curious to hear who Tom and DomA consider a "very good writer"? VTHokie - 24/02/2011 05:49:13 PM 1387 Views
Among living writers? Tom - 24/02/2011 08:16:08 PM 1437 Views
No Rushdie? fionwe1987 - 24/02/2011 09:22:46 PM 1286 Views
I was considering mentioning Rushdie. Tom - 24/02/2011 09:32:20 PM 1260 Views
My list would be similar... DomA - 26/02/2011 07:24:11 AM 1551 Views
That was a very good list. Tom - 26/02/2011 03:07:31 PM 1442 Views
Re: That was a very good list. DomA - 27/02/2011 04:51:43 AM 1448 Views
Once I finish Hugo I'm probably going to read Druon. Tom - 27/02/2011 02:30:03 PM 1285 Views
Oh, and another question Tom - 27/02/2011 05:28:47 PM 1177 Views
Re: Oh, and another question DomA - 01/03/2011 03:42:02 AM 1400 Views
One final question, if you'll indulge me... Tom - 01/03/2011 06:43:23 PM 1218 Views
Well, until I have time to return to your previous post but... DomA - 01/03/2011 07:45:13 PM 1444 Views
I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' Iain83 - 27/02/2011 11:14:30 AM 1595 Views
You like Solzhenitsyn but not other Russian writers? Tom - 27/02/2011 02:43:46 PM 1396 Views
Re: You like Solzhenitsyn but not other Russian writers? Iain83 - 02/03/2011 11:47:19 PM 1560 Views
Re: I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' DomA - 28/02/2011 11:51:49 PM 1487 Views
Re: I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' Iain83 - 03/03/2011 12:01:30 AM 1502 Views
Link to DomA Post from up above: Nargs - 03/03/2011 12:20:11 AM 1611 Views
Re: I think the two of you have taken too narrow a meaning of 'great' DomA - 03/03/2011 02:17:06 PM 1375 Views
He's a great storyteller, but his prose is somewhat uninspiring. *NM* Marshall - 27/02/2011 07:28:00 PM 901 Views
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