I agree with your disagreement to the kind of disagreement
newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 21/02/2011 05:34:34 PM
To bring it to a fine point: they wouldn't have time for a lot of the little interactions - imagine telling tEotW, and having time to choose the things that would get removed. Both TV shows and movies
suffer from needing to cut "character" material in order to keep their running time and still maintain all the elements that just advance the plots.
You'd think TV series with a full 22-ep run would never lack for time to tell their stories and feature their characters as well. Nope.
If you're a Farscape fan, you know that many first season eps clock in around 50 minutes, but the aired episodes are several minutes shorter. Hell, even the Simpsons' writers say that they lose a lot of the little gags they used to include. The reason is that the studios increased the amount of ad time by about 2 minutes. I don't know if that's why The Simpsons isn't so good anymore, but still...
So in tEotW, think about what you'd have to cut: all the little confrontations in EF at the start, and on Bel Tine. That stuff sets up the whole story, and the characters, as well as things to come in books 3 & beyond. Or how about you just pare down the amount of audible dialogue given to Padan Fain?
That would risk making him a ludicrous plot irregularity, long before he actually became a ludicrous plot irregularity.
The multiple confrontations with the Whitecloaks do a lot to advance Mat and Perrin and Egwene and Rand (and his "sickness"
. It even gave Nynaeve and Moiraine and Lan some important moments. These would probably be gone.
And all the people that the characters meet? The ones who meet them and maybe march them off to a queen? Or give them a ride? Or turn out to be DFs?
There would just be a massive amount of stuff to remove. You'd need a really fine hand to even try to keep any of the series' spirit and still tell the story. And I'm only considering the first book...
It's not quite as impossible as DomA thinks, I should say. The best example I can think of: The Count of Monte Cristo is a really good movie, and the unabridged novel is a 1500 page hardcover! In Dumas' book, it's about 500 page before the first revenge is taken - and it's a freaking revenge story. I guess if they could get the people that adapted that, they might do a good job. But the job would be made more difficult by trying to explain elements of a slightly alien, totally-fictitious world.
suffer from needing to cut "character" material in order to keep their running time and still maintain all the elements that just advance the plots.
You'd think TV series with a full 22-ep run would never lack for time to tell their stories and feature their characters as well. Nope.
If you're a Farscape fan, you know that many first season eps clock in around 50 minutes, but the aired episodes are several minutes shorter. Hell, even the Simpsons' writers say that they lose a lot of the little gags they used to include. The reason is that the studios increased the amount of ad time by about 2 minutes. I don't know if that's why The Simpsons isn't so good anymore, but still...
So in tEotW, think about what you'd have to cut: all the little confrontations in EF at the start, and on Bel Tine. That stuff sets up the whole story, and the characters, as well as things to come in books 3 & beyond. Or how about you just pare down the amount of audible dialogue given to Padan Fain?
That would risk making him a ludicrous plot irregularity, long before he actually became a ludicrous plot irregularity.
The multiple confrontations with the Whitecloaks do a lot to advance Mat and Perrin and Egwene and Rand (and his "sickness"
. It even gave Nynaeve and Moiraine and Lan some important moments. These would probably be gone.And all the people that the characters meet? The ones who meet them and maybe march them off to a queen? Or give them a ride? Or turn out to be DFs?
There would just be a massive amount of stuff to remove. You'd need a really fine hand to even try to keep any of the series' spirit and still tell the story. And I'm only considering the first book...
It's not quite as impossible as DomA thinks, I should say. The best example I can think of: The Count of Monte Cristo is a really good movie, and the unabridged novel is a 1500 page hardcover! In Dumas' book, it's about 500 page before the first revenge is taken - and it's a freaking revenge story. I guess if they could get the people that adapted that, they might do a good job. But the job would be made more difficult by trying to explain elements of a slightly alien, totally-fictitious world.
So any news about the EoTW film?
- 20/02/2011 07:59:36 PM
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the film rights change hands every few years, it's unlikely anything will ever happen *NM*
- 20/02/2011 08:42:57 PM
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that's probably a good thing.
- 21/02/2011 01:58:36 AM
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Length
- 21/02/2011 04:57:49 AM
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WoT could lose half its content and not overly suffer.
- 21/02/2011 07:56:28 AM
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Re: WoT could lose half its content and not overly suffer.
- 21/02/2011 02:24:07 PM
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Kind of disagree
- 21/02/2011 03:12:50 PM
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Re: Kind of disagree
- 21/02/2011 05:17:42 PM
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I agree with your disagreement to the kind of disagreement
- 21/02/2011 05:34:34 PM
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Re: WoT could lose half its content and not overly suffer.
- 22/02/2011 11:41:58 PM
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The belief that a WoT film will be produced is fantasy of a grander scale than WoT itself. *NM*
- 23/02/2011 11:05:33 PM
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