WH
With the CK
Using the full strength of her circle, she wove her shield, and watched aghast as it rebounded. The woman was already embracing saidar, though no light shone around her, and she was immensely strong!
Then she had no time for thought of anything as the golden-haired woman spun around and began channeling. Verin could not see the weaves, but she knew when she was fighting off an attack on her life, and she had come too far to die here.
You are correct that it's seen as weakness, but it clearly doesn't mean it doesn't happen... we've seen plenty of examples of even experienced Channelers doing this, even though it's open talked about as being bad form.
AS clearly perform way more weaves including gestures than other groups, but we've seen it from others as well ...
WH
With the CK
Abruptly the light of saidar appeared around the woman, but the ready ball of fire streaked from Cyndane's hand, small enough to escape detection she hoped, but enough to burn a hole through this woman who—
The Asha'man training includes gestures too it seems as we've seen on a number of occasions:
WH
With the CK
Abruptly the old man stopped and thrust out his hand straight toward Demandred, and Demandred found himself frantically fending off a net of saidin that struck his warding much harder than it should have, as hard as his own spinning would. That tottering old man was an Asha'man! And at least one of the women must be what passed for Aes Sedai in this time, and joined with the fellow in a ring.
Everyone seems to raise their hands in some form or another for Balefire, and Lightning as well as Fireballs ... all the "aggressive" or "combat" weaves seem to have some form of gesture. We don't see a lot of examples of anyone weaving combative weaves without aiming with their hands ...
at any rate it's pure speculation on my part as it seems like in most cases there were no Wards set up and the odds of Verin having Ta'vern luck on her side against Graendal are pretty slim...
With the CK
Using the full strength of her circle, she wove her shield, and watched aghast as it rebounded. The woman was already embracing saidar, though no light shone around her, and she was immensely strong!
Then she had no time for thought of anything as the golden-haired woman spun around and began channeling. Verin could not see the weaves, but she knew when she was fighting off an attack on her life, and she had come too far to die here.
You are correct that it's seen as weakness, but it clearly doesn't mean it doesn't happen... we've seen plenty of examples of even experienced Channelers doing this, even though it's open talked about as being bad form.
AS clearly perform way more weaves including gestures than other groups, but we've seen it from others as well ...
WH
With the CK
Abruptly the light of saidar appeared around the woman, but the ready ball of fire streaked from Cyndane's hand, small enough to escape detection she hoped, but enough to burn a hole through this woman who—
The Asha'man training includes gestures too it seems as we've seen on a number of occasions:
WH
With the CK
Abruptly the old man stopped and thrust out his hand straight toward Demandred, and Demandred found himself frantically fending off a net of saidin that struck his warding much harder than it should have, as hard as his own spinning would. That tottering old man was an Asha'man! And at least one of the women must be what passed for Aes Sedai in this time, and joined with the fellow in a ring.
Everyone seems to raise their hands in some form or another for Balefire, and Lightning as well as Fireballs ... all the "aggressive" or "combat" weaves seem to have some form of gesture. We don't see a lot of examples of anyone weaving combative weaves without aiming with their hands ...
at any rate it's pure speculation on my part as it seems like in most cases there were no Wards set up and the odds of Verin having Ta'vern luck on her side against Graendal are pretty slim...
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
This message last edited by darius_sedai on 08/02/2011 at 10:22:43 PM
Question about Rand and Lanfear's battle before Moiraine's game-saving tackle, and other ?s
04/02/2011 01:05:56 AM
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I thought of another...
04/02/2011 01:10:23 AM
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The blue sparks are not necessarily the result of a power-wrought blade.
04/02/2011 01:59:46 AM
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I thought that RJ had confirmed at some point that Thom had power wrought knives. *NM*
04/02/2011 02:06:14 PM
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he may have, but it has also been implied that the blue light was because of something special/uniqu
04/02/2011 09:18:02 PM
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Re: Question about Rand and Lanfear's battle before Moiraine's game-saving tackle, and other ?s
04/02/2011 01:52:55 AM
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Re: Question about Rand and Lanfear's battle before Moiraine's game-saving tackle, and other ?s
06/02/2011 08:15:43 PM
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You're misapplying practices.
07/02/2011 01:08:22 PM
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Still disagree...
08/02/2011 06:11:38 AM
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Re: Still disagree...
08/02/2011 11:58:19 AM
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Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor?
09/02/2011 05:45:13 AM
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Have YOU?
15/02/2011 12:47:39 AM
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She doesn't have to overhear them to know that something is fishy
21/02/2011 10:35:41 AM
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Some ideas
04/02/2011 08:26:09 AM
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No, I think RJ just didn't think it through, seeing as Rand sliced Lanfear's invisible weaves too...
04/02/2011 11:42:38 AM
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it's different
04/02/2011 02:21:44 PM
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So what stopped Lanfear from flicking him against the skull with a surprise club of Air...
04/02/2011 02:33:53 PM
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Gestures and Weaves go hand in hand and since flows originate from the body you can logically
05/02/2011 05:45:00 PM
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In general, only third age Aes Sedai gesture when they weave - it's a block imposed by training.
07/02/2011 06:20:33 PM
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Not true
08/02/2011 01:54:17 PM
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Your example proved my point - LTT only said that it was needed for certain weaves.
08/02/2011 04:20:28 PM
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Hmm...
08/02/2011 05:38:13 PM
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It's a flawed and incorrect given all the examples we've seen in the books.
08/02/2011 08:36:32 PM
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Verin could not see the weaves
08/02/2011 10:16:56 PM
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Also...
08/02/2011 11:35:20 PM
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Well, that's partially the point I'm bringing up.
09/02/2011 03:19:07 PM
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I disagree that the better assumption is that she set complex and renewing wards
10/02/2011 06:12:07 PM
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I never said she could - I said she sensed them, and felt the woman's channeling.
09/02/2011 03:04:00 PM
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I think she had a ward to detect saidin, and when it was triggered, she guessed it would be Air
04/02/2011 04:40:46 PM
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