Got you now... - Edit 2
Before modification by Shannow at 03/02/2011 11:34:12 PM
You and Darius in your lone crusade
That isn't a "lone" crusade. And we're contradicted by whom... you and Sidious? That's pretty even, no?
have been determined to show Egwene as only a small step below Moghedien in strength.
Because RJ said that. But you're more correct that the author of the series, of course.
And yet, if you suggest even for a moment that Nynaeve - at only Moghedien's strength level at the time - could be strong enough to manhandle Egwene and Elayne together with such ease, while still weaving a dozen additional flows - after Egwene has already been forced by the Seanchan to MUCH closer to her full strength than Nynaeve is at the time, then your own argument falls completely flat.
Point 1: Egwene has been forced by the Seanchan to very close to her full strength. Nynaeve has not. Therefore, Egwene is MUCH closer to her full strength than Nynaeve is at that point in time.
Point 2: Elayne is already stronger than most Aes Sedai at that point in time.
Point 3: Siuan says that at full strength before her stilling, she was able to lift 3 times her body weight into the Air. While holding them both shielded, Rand still lifts BOTH of them into the Air simultaneously, thus lifting two thirds of Siuan's maximum lifting ability. This while women are known to be stronger in Air and able to make longer Air bridges etc. And this while Rand is lifting two separate weights with two simultaneous weaves - far more difficult than one person of twice the weight. PLUS he lifted two tables into the Air as well and made them dance across the room. Altogether, he is lifting far more than Siuan's maximum lifting ability, and he is doing it with 4 separate weaves!
Bottomline, Rand is shielding both of them, and still is able to exceed a feat requiring the full strength of Moiraine/Siuan at the same time.
Therefore, he is shielding Egwene - who significantly exceeds Moiraine's strength at the time, he is shielding Elayne - who approximates a strong Aes Sedai at the time, and he is lifting weight that would require greater strength than Moiraine all on its own. This while splitting the flows that are doing so.
That already means he significantly stronger than two Moiraine's PLUS another strong Aes Sedai. Those feats alone probably puts him in the 3 x Moiraine's strength bracket.
AND then he spins a half dozen or so other weaves as well. All without even breaking a sweat.
Is Moghedien able to equal that? If she can then she is about 3 times as strong as Moiraine, about 5 times as strong as an average Aes Sedai, and about 9 times as strong as Dagian.
Are you happy with placing Moghedien that high? Because that would mean that she is about 50% stronger than Egwene, who is only equal to about twice Moiraine's strength.
Thank you.