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Remember Moggy fighting Nynaeve and Birgitte in TaR? newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 30/01/2011 11:30:37 PM
Almost sound like a line from "Family Guy," doesn't it?...

Among other things, it's been made clear that some things very particular and peculiar things can be done to people in TaR.

Although Birgitte is not a channeler, I seem to remember reading that Birgitte herself was not only made to look like a child, but made to think she was a child. It seems clear to me that you can make people's minds change in TaR (if only to ruin them), and that this effect will persist outside TaR.

And I always assumed that this was possible - changing people in TaR. Then in ToM, Egwene made Mesaana into a drooling idiot with no channeling required. From my reading of ToM, I got that Eggy "made" Mesaana into a drooling vegetable.

How did you read those moments? And what possibilities did you extract from them?
This message last edited by newyorkersedai on 30/01/2011 at 11:32:28 PM
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TOM SPOILERS 5 Imaginary Dollars to whoever can tell me why Egwene didn't find Elaida's dreams, - 30/01/2011 10:18:03 PM 1556 Views
Inside Elaida's dreams, Elaida woukd be in control - 30/01/2011 11:05:32 PM 1072 Views
Where have you got the idea Egwene or any Dreamer could do this? *NM* - 30/01/2011 11:14:22 PM 477 Views
Remember Moggy fighting Nynaeve and Birgitte in TaR? - 30/01/2011 11:30:37 PM 1115 Views
But that's in TAR - 30/01/2011 11:42:25 PM 866 Views
I meant "to locate Elaida *via her dreams* and pull Elaida into TAR" - 31/01/2011 12:18:13 AM 943 Views
as to that the WO told her flat out that such things were evil and only done by the Shadow - 31/01/2011 12:53:32 AM 854 Views
Need - 31/01/2011 06:40:10 AM 910 Views
"Need" should not be confused with "want". - 31/01/2011 08:30:55 AM 833 Views
The place with individual dreams isn't TAR - 31/01/2011 08:49:42 PM 915 Views
Even then... you've forgotten that.... - 31/01/2011 01:53:07 AM 966 Views
I read some of that differently. TaR tricks not working in the real world = destroying walls - 31/01/2011 02:09:31 AM 966 Views
Yes - 31/01/2011 06:45:03 AM 941 Views
Re: Yes - 31/01/2011 08:33:27 AM 881 Views
Re: Yes - 01/02/2011 05:15:28 PM 781 Views
That is not true... - 31/01/2011 08:27:33 PM 916 Views
Thank you very much! I was wondering if I had to do a massive re-read - 31/01/2011 11:50:13 PM 794 Views
Re: That is not true... - 02/02/2011 12:21:59 PM 921 Views
Re: That is not true... - 03/02/2011 10:25:05 PM 1285 Views
Most Aes Sedai ward their dreams. - 31/01/2011 01:49:49 AM 965 Views
They ward them with Spirit, and Elaida is a damane... *NM* - 31/01/2011 01:55:27 AM 397 Views
Yup... - 31/01/2011 05:58:29 PM 790 Views
You sure on that? - 31/01/2011 02:29:43 PM 840 Views
They DO ward their dreams... - 31/01/2011 05:56:51 PM 794 Views
Re: They DO ward their dreams... - 31/01/2011 06:27:03 PM 830 Views
Re: DO They ward their dreams... - 02/02/2011 02:46:12 PM 738 Views
external threats.... - 03/02/2011 05:06:58 PM 819 Views
Re: external threats.... - 03/02/2011 11:01:42 PM 820 Views

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