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Remember Moggy fighting Nynaeve and Birgitte in TaR? newyorkersedai Send a noteboard - 30/01/2011 11:30:37 PM
Almost sound like a line from "Family Guy," doesn't it?...

Among other things, it's been made clear that some things very particular and peculiar things can be done to people in TaR.

Although Birgitte is not a channeler, I seem to remember reading that Birgitte herself was not only made to look like a child, but made to think she was a child. It seems clear to me that you can make people's minds change in TaR (if only to ruin them), and that this effect will persist outside TaR.

And I always assumed that this was possible - changing people in TaR. Then in ToM, Egwene made Mesaana into a drooling idiot with no channeling required. From my reading of ToM, I got that Eggy "made" Mesaana into a drooling vegetable.

How did you read those moments? And what possibilities did you extract from them?
This message last edited by newyorkersedai on 30/01/2011 at 11:32:28 PM
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TOM SPOILERS 5 Imaginary Dollars to whoever can tell me why Egwene didn't find Elaida's dreams, - 30/01/2011 10:18:03 PM 1530 Views
Inside Elaida's dreams, Elaida woukd be in control - 30/01/2011 11:05:32 PM 1015 Views
Where have you got the idea Egwene or any Dreamer could do this? *NM* - 30/01/2011 11:14:22 PM 463 Views
Remember Moggy fighting Nynaeve and Birgitte in TaR? - 30/01/2011 11:30:37 PM 1055 Views
But that's in TAR - 30/01/2011 11:42:25 PM 807 Views
I meant "to locate Elaida *via her dreams* and pull Elaida into TAR" - 31/01/2011 12:18:13 AM 886 Views
as to that the WO told her flat out that such things were evil and only done by the Shadow - 31/01/2011 12:53:32 AM 796 Views
Need - 31/01/2011 06:40:10 AM 854 Views
"Need" should not be confused with "want". - 31/01/2011 08:30:55 AM 777 Views
The place with individual dreams isn't TAR - 31/01/2011 08:49:42 PM 860 Views
Even then... you've forgotten that.... - 31/01/2011 01:53:07 AM 912 Views
I read some of that differently. TaR tricks not working in the real world = destroying walls - 31/01/2011 02:09:31 AM 905 Views
Yes - 31/01/2011 06:45:03 AM 880 Views
Re: Yes - 31/01/2011 08:33:27 AM 824 Views
Re: Yes - 01/02/2011 05:15:28 PM 725 Views
That is not true... - 31/01/2011 08:27:33 PM 863 Views
Thank you very much! I was wondering if I had to do a massive re-read - 31/01/2011 11:50:13 PM 736 Views
Re: That is not true... - 02/02/2011 12:21:59 PM 860 Views
Re: That is not true... - 03/02/2011 10:25:05 PM 1225 Views
Most Aes Sedai ward their dreams. - 31/01/2011 01:49:49 AM 903 Views
They ward them with Spirit, and Elaida is a damane... *NM* - 31/01/2011 01:55:27 AM 376 Views
Yup... - 31/01/2011 05:58:29 PM 737 Views
You sure on that? - 31/01/2011 02:29:43 PM 773 Views
They DO ward their dreams... - 31/01/2011 05:56:51 PM 731 Views
Re: They DO ward their dreams... - 31/01/2011 06:27:03 PM 776 Views
Re: DO They ward their dreams... - 02/02/2011 02:46:12 PM 679 Views
external threats.... - 03/02/2011 05:06:58 PM 766 Views
Re: external threats.... - 03/02/2011 11:01:42 PM 763 Views

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