New Spring
Coming Home
The higher she stands above you, the greater your deference. Failure in that is the third greatest rudeness, and third only by a hair. The most common reason for new sisters to be given penance is a misstep of that sort, and since the penance is set by the offended sister, it is seldom light. A month or two of Labor or Deprivation is the least you can expect. Mortification of the Spirit and Mortification of the Flesh are not unheard of."
Elayne has told Nynaeve that she would disobey her which a significantly weaker woman would never do according to the quote above
Winter’s Heart
A Plan Succeeds
But I would rather not disobey you, so don't, please.
While Elayne knows she should have some level of deference to Nynaeve, she is still willing to go directly against her wishes which is something others are not willing to consider when there is a significant gap in strength.
Siuan is meek as she can manage with even who are only somewhat stronger than her ...
The Path of Daggers
New Alliances
Siuan spent her days giving way to women who had jumped at her word a year earlier, smiling and curtsying for nearly every sister in the camp.
Siuan is bowing and scraping to even Middling Sisters...
A Crow of Swords
An Oath
Even Aeldene is [above Siuan] and she’s no more than middling.
But even still Siuan is still stronger than a good number of sisters in the camp so she can't be dramatically weaker than some of the average AS ... but deference is demanded...
Coming Home
The higher she stands above you, the greater your deference. Failure in that is the third greatest rudeness, and third only by a hair. The most common reason for new sisters to be given penance is a misstep of that sort, and since the penance is set by the offended sister, it is seldom light. A month or two of Labor or Deprivation is the least you can expect. Mortification of the Spirit and Mortification of the Flesh are not unheard of."
Elayne has told Nynaeve that she would disobey her which a significantly weaker woman would never do according to the quote above
Winter’s Heart
A Plan Succeeds
But I would rather not disobey you, so don't, please.
While Elayne knows she should have some level of deference to Nynaeve, she is still willing to go directly against her wishes which is something others are not willing to consider when there is a significant gap in strength.
Siuan is meek as she can manage with even who are only somewhat stronger than her ...
The Path of Daggers
New Alliances
Siuan spent her days giving way to women who had jumped at her word a year earlier, smiling and curtsying for nearly every sister in the camp.
Siuan is bowing and scraping to even Middling Sisters...
A Crow of Swords
An Oath
Even Aeldene is [above Siuan] and she’s no more than middling.
But even still Siuan is still stronger than a good number of sisters in the camp so she can't be dramatically weaker than some of the average AS ... but deference is demanded...
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Could Norla be the other woman stronger than Nynaeve?
22/01/2011 06:54:36 PM
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It's a nice idea, really
22/01/2011 07:04:03 PM
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we don't know the strength difference between Cadsuane and Nynaeve
22/01/2011 08:55:48 PM
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Nynaeve is of course roughly twice as strong as Cadsuane...
24/01/2011 10:26:49 PM
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you and your assumptions crack me up ... there is zero evidence that Nyn is 2x Cadsuane
26/01/2011 04:41:33 PM
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Waits for the candle flame vs. bonfire quote to appear...
26/01/2011 05:01:28 PM
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*blows out the friggin candle* ... why does anyone take EoTW Moiraine quotes seriously?
26/01/2011 09:41:53 PM
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tGH, but I agree...
27/01/2011 04:58:08 AM
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Re: tGH, but I agree...
27/01/2011 07:29:15 AM
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I think it's a matter of perspective too
27/01/2011 05:12:29 PM
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Nynaeve temporarily holds Logain shielded on her own, while 5 average strength Aes Sedai cannot...
27/01/2011 05:35:26 PM
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Another inconsistency ... since 4 women held a shield on Rand who is Stronger than Logain EDIT
27/01/2011 07:47:31 PM
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Not an inconsistency and if you analyse it...
27/01/2011 08:21:39 PM
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I'm not dismissing the quote I'm saying 6 weak women held Logain
27/01/2011 09:21:34 PM
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Circular logic...
27/01/2011 09:49:40 PM
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Explain to me how Moghedien is only 60% of Lanfear and managed to do anything?
28/01/2011 06:25:28 PM
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Easy. And I dispute that all 6 women shielding Logain were only 10% stronger than an Accepted.
29/01/2011 12:42:54 PM
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Not even gonna bother ... So many flawed statements in here it's not worth the effort to correct you *NM*
29/01/2011 04:50:01 PM
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Wait... what?
27/01/2011 11:16:32 PM
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Re: Wait... what?
28/01/2011 12:26:22 AM
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Nope...
28/01/2011 01:24:18 AM
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Yeah, but...
28/01/2011 12:53:26 PM
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Therer is a direct quote in New Spring
28/01/2011 02:20:40 PM
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Thanks
28/01/2011 04:05:47 PM
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Not really the case though
28/01/2011 04:54:28 PM
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That's your evidence? You mean like Caddy defers to Nynaeve?
28/01/2011 02:29:46 PM
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It will be someone who was alive at some point during the series...
22/01/2011 07:11:57 PM
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Strength in the Power and skill in the Power are not the same thing.
22/01/2011 10:33:12 PM
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true, but nearly 300 years ago when she was a new AS she had yet to learn that lesson
23/01/2011 04:49:33 PM
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Possibly? But unlikely.
23/01/2011 11:12:01 PM
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The 6 are...
24/01/2011 10:09:33 PM
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I disagree. If anything Semirhage is at the same strength level
24/01/2011 11:10:30 PM
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Agree and disagree...
25/01/2011 10:44:26 AM
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Re: Agree and disagree...
25/01/2011 11:04:11 PM
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I didn't say Semirhage is definitely one of the 6, but his answer leaves it as a viable possibility.
26/01/2011 07:36:52 AM
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I'd disagree with that statement. I think he definitively ruled her out with his comment
26/01/2011 04:40:14 PM
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Lanfear and Cyndane are the same person *NM*
25/01/2011 10:24:15 AM
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I think Shannows' point is that even with reduced strength, Lanfear is still the most powerful
25/01/2011 05:30:34 PM
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Re: The 6 are...
25/01/2011 10:51:40 PM
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This seems like the most likely case to me, but Sommeryn is unsubstantiated to date
26/01/2011 04:43:27 PM
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I think there's a stronger case for Someryn than most women
26/01/2011 05:07:03 PM
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I agree that she is the most likely candidate, but there is nothing beyond speculation
26/01/2011 09:45:27 PM
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Talaan isn't stronger. She is the same strength and has been actively channeling for 6 years
24/01/2011 11:14:31 PM
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Not necessarily
25/01/2011 08:07:02 PM
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But that doesn't answer why a toothless wilder in a backwoods hut would have drawn
26/01/2011 04:49:33 PM
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nah
25/01/2011 10:55:10 PM
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it's obvious that Norla made her "earn" the ornaments
26/01/2011 04:47:32 PM
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Re: it's obvious that Norla made her "earn" the ornaments
26/01/2011 05:17:16 PM
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I can see that as a possibility too
26/01/2011 10:22:02 PM
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