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Nynaeve temporarily holds Logain shielded on her own, while 5 average strength Aes Sedai cannot... Shannow Send a noteboard - 27/01/2011 05:35:26 PM
Dagian is weaker than Siuan, and Siuan admits that she herself is only half as strong as the average Aes Sedai. So most likely those 6 women who struggled to shield Logain were each on average twice as strong as Dagian.

Meaning that the raw strength of the 6 women holding Logain could easily have been 12 times that of Dagian.

And according to them if just 5 of them had held the shield (e.g. about 10 times Daigian's strength) then Logain would have had a chance of breaking free.

Now I'm sorry, but it is pretty clear that the gulf from Daigian to Nynaeve is in the order of 8-10 TIMES or more.

So from the point of view of a normal Aes Sedai, if the gap between Nynaeve and Egwene was just the equivalent of 1 Dagian, then that's hardly going to be anything amazing, considering that you'll only be talking about the difference between someone who is as strong as 9 Dagian's versus someone who is as strong as 10 Dagians.

So I beg to differ. The gap between Nynaeve and Egwene is quite clearly significantly more than Dagian's strength.
This message last edited by Shannow on 27/01/2011 at 05:36:29 PM
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Could Norla be the other woman stronger than Nynaeve? darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 06:54:36 PM 2131 Views
It's a nice idea, really newyorkersedai - 22/01/2011 07:04:03 PM 1184 Views
we don't know the strength difference between Cadsuane and Nynaeve darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 08:55:48 PM 1113 Views
Nynaeve is of course roughly twice as strong as Cadsuane... Shannow - 24/01/2011 10:26:49 PM 1219 Views
Still sticking to the nonsense I see... fionwe1987 - 25/01/2011 12:14:12 AM 1020 Views
you and your assumptions crack me up ... there is zero evidence that Nyn is 2x Cadsuane darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 04:41:33 PM 1037 Views
Waits for the candle flame vs. bonfire quote to appear... fionwe1987 - 26/01/2011 05:01:28 PM 1075 Views
*blows out the friggin candle* ... why does anyone take EoTW Moiraine quotes seriously? darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 09:41:53 PM 1037 Views
tGH, but I agree... fionwe1987 - 27/01/2011 04:58:08 AM 1130 Views
Re: tGH, but I agree... Sidious - 27/01/2011 07:29:15 AM 967 Views
I think it's a matter of perspective too darius_sedai - 27/01/2011 05:12:29 PM 901 Views
Nynaeve temporarily holds Logain shielded on her own, while 5 average strength Aes Sedai cannot... Shannow - 27/01/2011 05:35:26 PM 831 Views
Another inconsistency ... since 4 women held a shield on Rand who is Stronger than Logain EDIT darius_sedai - 27/01/2011 07:47:31 PM 938 Views
Not an inconsistency and if you analyse it... Shannow - 27/01/2011 08:21:39 PM 1154 Views
I'm not dismissing the quote I'm saying 6 weak women held Logain darius_sedai - 27/01/2011 09:21:34 PM 971 Views
Circular logic... Shannow - 27/01/2011 09:49:40 PM 1036 Views
Explain to me how Moghedien is only 60% of Lanfear and managed to do anything? darius_sedai - 28/01/2011 06:25:28 PM 1072 Views
Easy. And I dispute that all 6 women shielding Logain were only 10% stronger than an Accepted. Shannow - 29/01/2011 12:42:54 PM 809 Views
Not even gonna bother ... So many flawed statements in here it's not worth the effort to correct you *NM* darius_sedai - 29/01/2011 04:50:01 PM 470 Views
Wait... what? fionwe1987 - 27/01/2011 11:16:32 PM 898 Views
Re: Wait... what? Zeratul - 28/01/2011 12:26:22 AM 838 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 28/01/2011 01:24:18 AM 934 Views
Yeah, but... Zeratul - 28/01/2011 12:53:26 PM 977 Views
Therer is a direct quote in New Spring darius_sedai - 28/01/2011 02:20:40 PM 953 Views
Yup... *NM* fionwe1987 - 28/01/2011 02:42:15 PM 502 Views
Thanks Zeratul - 28/01/2011 04:05:47 PM 1001 Views
Not really the case though darius_sedai - 28/01/2011 04:54:28 PM 796 Views
That's your evidence? You mean like Caddy defers to Nynaeve? Shannow - 28/01/2011 02:29:46 PM 910 Views
So Elayne is Cadsunae in you stupid play? fionwe1987 - 28/01/2011 02:44:07 PM 864 Views
Getting hot under the collar and irrational again, I see... Shannow - 28/01/2011 03:01:14 PM 818 Views
right tGH but still! *NM* darius_sedai - 27/01/2011 04:02:57 PM 445 Views
It will be someone who was alive at some point during the series... Shannow - 22/01/2011 07:11:57 PM 1121 Views
it's obviously a stretch, just a random thought darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 08:26:49 PM 1126 Views
Strength in the Power and skill in the Power are not the same thing. Ghavrel - 22/01/2011 10:33:12 PM 955 Views
true, but nearly 300 years ago when she was a new AS she had yet to learn that lesson darius_sedai - 23/01/2011 04:49:33 PM 939 Views
Possibly? But unlikely. redqueen - 23/01/2011 11:12:01 PM 902 Views
The 6 are... Shannow - 24/01/2011 10:09:33 PM 1222 Views
I disagree. If anything Semirhage is at the same strength level darius_sedai - 24/01/2011 11:10:30 PM 985 Views
Agree and disagree... Shannow - 25/01/2011 10:44:26 AM 951 Views
Re: Agree and disagree... Sidious - 25/01/2011 11:04:11 PM 878 Views
I didn't say Semirhage is definitely one of the 6, but his answer leaves it as a viable possibility. Shannow - 26/01/2011 07:36:52 AM 992 Views
I'd disagree with that statement. I think he definitively ruled her out with his comment darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 04:40:14 PM 797 Views
Not really Sidious - 26/01/2011 05:15:59 PM 875 Views
Lanfear and Cyndane are the same person *NM* Vidarfe - 25/01/2011 10:24:15 AM 446 Views
I think Shannows' point is that even with reduced strength, Lanfear is still the most powerful RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/01/2011 05:30:34 PM 949 Views
Re: The 6 are... Sidious - 25/01/2011 10:51:40 PM 1010 Views
This seems like the most likely case to me, but Sommeryn is unsubstantiated to date darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 04:43:27 PM 818 Views
I think there's a stronger case for Someryn than most women Sidious - 26/01/2011 05:07:03 PM 972 Views
I agree that she is the most likely candidate, but there is nothing beyond speculation darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 09:45:27 PM 845 Views
Talaan isn't stronger. She is the same strength and has been actively channeling for 6 years darius_sedai - 24/01/2011 11:14:31 PM 949 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/01/2011 03:56:00 PM 892 Views
Possible... fionwe1987 - 25/01/2011 12:17:42 AM 863 Views
none whatsoever ... purely speculating here *NM* darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 04:44:15 PM 382 Views
Not necessarily sleepinghour - 25/01/2011 08:07:02 PM 817 Views
But that doesn't answer why a toothless wilder in a backwoods hut would have drawn darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 04:49:33 PM 903 Views
nah Sidious - 25/01/2011 10:55:10 PM 1111 Views
it's obvious that Norla made her "earn" the ornaments darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 04:47:32 PM 1040 Views
Re: it's obvious that Norla made her "earn" the ornaments Sidious - 26/01/2011 05:17:16 PM 922 Views
I can see that as a possibility too darius_sedai - 26/01/2011 10:22:02 PM 926 Views
Re: I can see that as a possibility too Sidious - 27/01/2011 07:38:31 AM 1020 Views
we'll always disagree I suppose darius_sedai - 27/01/2011 04:47:42 PM 968 Views
Strongest since the breaking? I disagree Rurouni_Kenshin - 19/08/2011 01:09:37 PM 1138 Views
I doubt it. Gher - 26/01/2011 03:53:33 AM 944 Views
Could Norla be the other woman stronger than Nynaeve? ljgibbs - 26/01/2011 09:31:36 AM 1020 Views
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