If you prefer, "The pattern working thru him" rather than "lucky"
Mndrew Send a noteboard - 20/01/2011 01:14:35 AM
I agree, the Dagger and Fain will have a part to play, but you really can't say Mat was lucky to take the dagger.
The dagger 1)Gave Mat a reason to chase after the Horn, eventually linking him to it 2)Put "holes" in his memory that he filled with the memories of battlemasters of history.
This is the view I take. Shadar Logoth was the point where the characters truly got out on their own and began to develop as individuals outside of a group.
Rand dealing with his own issues trying to reach Tar Valon for safety, and answers to why the Trollocs were attacking the Two Rivers.
Mat, the dagger that led to him being linked to the Horn of Valere, having holes in his memory, that sent him into the land of the Finns, getting his memories, his Ashandarei, and his ter'angreal.
Perrin, the wolves, his conflicts as a leader, and his long debate over the Hammer vs. the Axe.
The events at Shadar Logoth are singularly in my opinion one of the most pivotal events of the series. Everything to that point, really was a long introduction. The story truly takes off at Shadar Logoth.
Key to the final battle is in Matt's first "Lucky" incident.
- 15/01/2011 04:11:02 AM
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You think him taking the Dagger was lucky?
- 15/01/2011 09:39:01 AM
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I mean, if you take the long view...
- 15/01/2011 09:56:47 AM
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Re: I mean, if you take the long view...
- 19/01/2011 05:33:08 AM
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If you prefer, "The pattern working thru him" rather than "lucky"
- 20/01/2011 01:14:35 AM
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actually, his luck started much AFTER the dagger *NM*
- 15/01/2011 01:28:12 PM
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he was ta'veren even then so his luck was likely in place already
- 15/01/2011 04:47:42 PM
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Re: he was ta'veren even then so his luck was likely in place already
- 15/01/2011 04:49:55 PM
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Mat was lucky long before Rhuidean
- 15/01/2011 05:40:57 PM
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That's the first time we see it overtly. But there is nothing to say it wasn't there before
- 15/01/2011 07:45:56 PM
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Mat mentions during the books that
- 15/01/2011 07:46:04 PM
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Re: Mat mentions during the books that
- 16/01/2011 05:54:32 AM
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The Eye of the World
- 19/01/2011 05:38:47 AM
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About his luck... Does anyone still remember Liandrin and the 12 other Black Ajah sisters? 
- 15/01/2011 07:36:42 PM
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- 15/01/2011 07:36:42 PM
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Maybe it will come up in AMoL and be used against him?
- 16/01/2011 03:55:39 AM
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Not sure, but here's the excerpt
- 16/01/2011 04:08:23 AM
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The second seems much more likely, and in keeping with the series.
- 16/01/2011 06:05:20 AM
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I always figured that was a plot device
- 17/01/2011 12:01:23 AM
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No - Mat has always been lucky, winning more than losing.
- 17/01/2011 01:51:50 PM
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Re: About his luck... Does anyone still remember Liandrin and the 12 other Black Ajah sisters?
- 19/01/2011 11:21:25 AM
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- 19/01/2011 11:21:25 AM
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Re: About his luck... Does anyone still remember Liandrin and the 12 other Black Ajah sisters?
- 19/01/2011 02:15:56 PM
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- 19/01/2011 02:15:56 PM
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Re: About his luck... Does anyone still remember Liandrin and the 12 other Black Ajah sisters?
- 19/01/2011 08:39:42 PM
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- 19/01/2011 08:39:42 PM
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From EoTW, the dream of the three figures, sword, dagger and wolf.
- 20/01/2011 01:20:15 AM
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