It would have been a state of open war for the first part of the offensive, and the characters we know as leaders (Egwene and Elayne) were most likely returning to their nations after Tarmon Gaidon right as the Seanchan were striking. It's not too hard to believe that Egwene and Elayne as stronger Aes Sedai, would have died in the fighting either early on or within a few decades. I doubt Nynaeve would have left either to face their battlefields alone, and I think she would have fallen, too. Aviendha probably died when the Aiel were first being targeted.
It would be even sadder if they were to have been collared because I consider that to be a fate worse than death, and this could be why they weren't mentioned - those characters were broken by the a'dam and can no longer be considered to be the same people they used to be.
It would be even sadder if they were to have been collared because I consider that to be a fate worse than death, and this could be why they weren't mentioned - those characters were broken by the a'dam and can no longer be considered to be the same people they used to be.
Andor had not gone to war with Seanchan yet ... that's the whole reason Aviendha's grand daughter was in the vision. And we heard that the WT fell in the later (timeline wise) vision so it seems very unlikely that any of them would have died fighting the Seanchan.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Avi's 2nd trip indirectly tells us something about Elayne
08/01/2011 10:31:15 PM
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The Queen of Andor in Avi's viewing was actually Elayne's granddaughter.
08/01/2011 11:18:20 PM
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Aviendha and Tuon are also dead or gone by that point. *NM*
09/01/2011 04:07:44 AM
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That does not surprise me
10/01/2011 12:06:23 AM
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40/50 is still young for Tuon to die, unless she's assassinated
10/01/2011 12:26:19 AM
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they've been collared *NM*
10/01/2011 01:55:18 PM
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I just figured that Elayne, Egwene and Nynaeve died fighting the Seanchan
10/01/2011 05:28:14 PM
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that doesn't fit the timeline though
11/01/2011 04:58:11 PM
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Strange.
11/01/2011 07:16:28 PM
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it's possible that the Dragon and his 3 wives simply leave together at a certain point
11/01/2011 08:59:19 PM
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Can you honestly see Elayne leaving her children and/or the throne of Andor to be with him?
12/01/2011 03:01:20 PM
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True it seems very unlikely, but perhaps they leave when the kids are grown?
23/01/2011 03:26:41 PM
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clearly?
10/01/2011 07:24:17 PM
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It's clearly implied that the vision with Avi's kids is about 17 years after the Last Battle
10/01/2011 08:22:06 PM
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Re: It's clearly implied that the vision with Avi's kids is about 17 years after the Last Battle
10/01/2011 10:08:52 PM
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It tells us Elayne doesn't rule very long, and neither does her daughter... BUT
10/01/2011 09:15:29 PM
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I wonder if Nakomi was Lanfear & if so, perhaps changed the programming of the ter'angreal
10/01/2011 10:30:50 PM
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Lanfear or a Forsaken as Nakomi don't make much sense to me
12/01/2011 06:03:32 PM
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As to the Nakomi problem...
26/01/2011 05:22:50 AM
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Aviendha time traveling back to herself. Very interesting...and possible...I'll have to think on it *NM*
30/01/2011 10:02:44 PM
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Re: It tells us Elayne doesn't rule very long, and neither does her daughter... BUT
29/01/2011 11:32:10 PM
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Does anyone know who actually wrote the Avi future sequence? RJ or BS? *NM*
21/01/2011 05:04:33 AM
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