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Couple of flaws here darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 31/12/2010 06:54:13 PM

It was really odd that Rand couldn't get Tuon to join him despite his ta'veren powers. That implies that the Pattern wants them to be separate.

I don't think that the Seanchan will join Rand before TG, especially considering they're going for another attack on the WT.

Its possible that all of humanity are annihilated at TG leaving the Seanchan to carry on civilization. It sucks if that's the case but its not illogical.

One of my big regrets is that Rand didn't destroy the Seanchan in TGS. Perhaps we don't know the full picture yet, but they are an extreme irritation and distraction from the Last Battle.


Tuon was not supposed to join Dark Rand... Enlightened Rand could be a whole other thing... Not to mention Mat and Perrin being with him for the first time sine TSR. If they all 3 want a course of actin there is no way anyone resists. Which is what I think will happen at Merilor.

Also we know from Avi's vision that "The far ones" are still out there and are most likely the Sharans so the Seanchan are not the only remnant.

Will be interesting to see what happens with a second WT attack now that TG is at hand. Egeanin may play a role here and will have to answer to Nynaeve and Elayne for her role in not destroying the male a'dam.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Avienda's viewing and the Fields of Merrilor (spoilers) saidarisnowtainted - 28/12/2010 06:21:05 PM 3382 Views
Timing moratcorlm - 28/12/2010 06:43:32 PM 2000 Views
Indeed...the bleak future makes the Last Battle almost an anti-climax... Shannow - 28/12/2010 08:20:31 PM 2085 Views
And yet, the only places of relative peace and shelter right now are Seanchan controlled lands. everynametaken - 29/12/2010 03:21:37 AM 1648 Views
+1. Lord Haart - 29/12/2010 04:04:02 AM 1450 Views
Re: +1. Lo'oris - 07/01/2011 05:25:23 PM 1316 Views
Those who would give up permanent liberty in exchange for temporary security, deserve neither.. Shannow - 29/12/2010 10:27:35 AM 1437 Views
Says the person defending monarchies and oligarchies, some of them quite brutal. moratcorlm - 29/12/2010 02:12:56 PM 1411 Views
LoL. What is this "POV trap" that people refer to so often to make a point? Shannow - 29/12/2010 10:00:11 PM 1613 Views
Re: LoL. What is this "POV trap" that people refer to so often to make a point? moratcorlm - 29/12/2010 10:44:12 PM 1421 Views
Why do you have this urge to overcomplicate something as simple as personal likes and dislikes? Shannow - 30/12/2010 10:00:43 AM 1358 Views
Re: Why do you have this urge to overcomplicate something as simple as personal likes and dislikes? Lo'oris - 07/01/2011 05:28:03 PM 1302 Views
"romantic characteristics" Variant - 07/01/2011 06:06:31 AM 1273 Views
Re: "romantic characteristics" Lo'oris - 07/01/2011 05:30:33 PM 1306 Views
Don't blame the Seanchan, The Aiel made an excuse to start a war. Variant - 08/01/2011 09:20:36 AM 1739 Views
Re: Those who would give up permanent liberty in exchange for temporary security, deserve neither.. Zeratul - 29/12/2010 03:06:16 PM 1531 Views
Exactly. *NM* everynametaken - 30/12/2010 02:50:07 AM 895 Views
They are pretty close to evil. Slavery being the big thing, but the crushing social scale is far darius_sedai - 31/12/2010 06:45:59 PM 1259 Views
The Aiel sold slaves to Shara, does that make them evil? No society in Randland is without flaws. Variant - 07/01/2011 05:10:32 AM 1547 Views
you are missing my point darius_sedai - 07/01/2011 11:31:11 PM 1410 Views
We haven't had a POV from a NON-high-ranking Seanchan moratcorlm - 08/01/2011 03:13:26 AM 24911 Views
As to Bethamin ... darius_sedai - 20/01/2011 04:46:36 PM 1374 Views
No, you're missing the point. Benevolence is irrelevant. Variant - 08/01/2011 09:48:51 AM 1296 Views
Re: No, you're missing the point. Benevolence is irrelevant. Lo'oris - 08/01/2011 10:04:18 AM 1345 Views
Well the Westlands aren't exactly modern Europe or USA either Lohikaarme - 08/01/2011 11:00:31 AM 1323 Views
Re: Well the Westlands aren't exactly modern Europe or USA either Lo'oris - 09/01/2011 02:08:17 AM 1304 Views
That's funny, I'd choose modern day China in a second. Variant - 09/01/2011 06:37:24 AM 1287 Views
Hong Kong is not an accurate representation of the rest of Modern China darius_sedai - 20/01/2011 04:50:20 PM 1272 Views
~sigh~ Cosmopolitan China is different than Rural China Variant - 21/01/2011 01:00:17 AM 1234 Views
well there is also the fact that Hong Kong has different "rules" than even other major darius_sedai - 21/01/2011 05:38:46 PM 1336 Views
I'm not just talking about Hong Kong though... Variant - 22/01/2011 09:36:20 AM 1339 Views
I've traveled extensively darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 06:02:47 PM 1282 Views
You've traveled to China extensively? Variant - 22/01/2011 07:41:30 PM 1346 Views
the quesetion you responded too is "would you rather live in Medieval Europe of Modern China darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 09:47:24 PM 1537 Views
I responded, "I"d choose modern day china in a second" Variant - 22/01/2011 10:29:46 PM 1370 Views
Actually, China is changing. Variant - 09/01/2011 06:32:58 AM 1317 Views
true to a point, yet China has been under one form or another of totalitarian rule for darius_sedai - 20/01/2011 04:57:37 PM 1297 Views
So? Variant - 21/01/2011 01:20:18 AM 1401 Views
Double post *NM* Variant - 21/01/2011 01:21:10 AM 713 Views
It's the comparative to the Seanchan empire I'm really getting at here, not saying China isn't darius_sedai - 21/01/2011 05:43:56 PM 1381 Views
I don't even know why China was brought up in the first place ~shrugs~ Variant - 22/01/2011 10:04:59 AM 1232 Views
I totally agree with your last point, which is why I think RJ set them up to be the "Evil Empire" darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 06:12:46 PM 1313 Views
They're not entirely evil though, and RJ has written them that way Variant - 22/01/2011 08:02:22 PM 1287 Views
not so much darius_sedai - 22/01/2011 09:54:38 PM 1270 Views
Your example is absurd. Variant - 22/01/2011 10:53:06 PM 1203 Views
Ah yes, the "Jews can kill you with their minds" argument. *NM* moratcorlm - 23/01/2011 05:32:23 PM 714 Views
Please. Like anyone else in Randland is really free? everynametaken - 30/12/2010 02:47:27 AM 1296 Views
Andor is rather progressive... Allowing the common people to speak their minds darius_sedai - 31/12/2010 06:35:29 PM 1243 Views
Andor is lionized as a huge exception to the general rule moratcorlm - 31/12/2010 11:57:30 PM 1346 Views
Re: Andor is rather progressive... Allowing the common people to speak their minds Zeratul - 01/01/2011 12:18:46 AM 1365 Views
Seanchan is much closer to the Chinese culture. Which has never established democracy darius_sedai - 01/01/2011 06:12:10 AM 1702 Views
Prussia (and with it Germany) would never have changed to democracy if not forced to Voscaia Sedai - 01/01/2011 12:23:34 PM 1223 Views
too easy: they did not have to fight the Shadow, they don't even know shadowspawn really exist as of *NM* Lo'oris - 29/12/2010 02:44:18 PM 760 Views
It goes beyond the channelers. The Seanchan control the population darius_sedai - 31/12/2010 06:00:57 PM 1239 Views
Re: It goes beyond the channelers. The Seanchan control the population moratcorlm - 01/01/2011 10:58:22 PM 1364 Views
Word, even the Tinkers are gathering and migrating to Seanchan held lands in the south. *NM* Variant - 07/01/2011 05:21:09 AM 675 Views
Maybe they're a remnant of humanity Sidious - 29/12/2010 04:41:40 AM 1452 Views
Re: Maybe they're a remnant of humanity moratcorlm - 29/12/2010 02:17:33 PM 1398 Views
Couple of flaws here darius_sedai - 31/12/2010 06:54:13 PM 1272 Views
You are right, here is a better analogy dadof5 - 03/01/2011 06:23:16 PM 1277 Views
Even Hitler didn't think Jews could kill people with their minds moratcorlm - 03/01/2011 07:22:09 PM 1340 Views
It depends on Rand's sperm I guess Skeeve the Great - 28/12/2010 08:27:59 PM 1370 Views
No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... Shannow - 28/12/2010 08:31:27 PM 1458 Views
Re: No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... Skeeve the Great - 28/12/2010 08:50:28 PM 1339 Views
Re: No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... saidarisnowtainted - 30/12/2010 03:56:55 PM 1381 Views
Because the Aiel are savages who have no place in a modern world moratcorlm - 28/12/2010 11:15:23 PM 1447 Views
Re: No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... saidarisnowtainted - 30/12/2010 04:01:00 PM 1397 Views
Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess Ashaman_Luc - 28/12/2010 11:02:34 PM 1323 Views
VoG = Veins of Gold. The chapter at the end of TGS where Rand becomes balanced. *NM* Lord Haart - 29/12/2010 06:56:38 AM 2157 Views
Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess Sidious - 29/12/2010 04:37:04 AM 1325 Views
Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess Skeeve the Great - 29/12/2010 02:37:12 PM 1327 Views
Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess saidarisnowtainted - 30/12/2010 04:02:31 PM 1581 Views
timeline in the books Ava - 29/12/2010 03:34:45 PM 1395 Views
Re: timeline in the books moratcorlm - 29/12/2010 05:29:11 PM 1405 Views
Re: timeline in the books Ava - 31/12/2010 01:18:32 PM 1297 Views
yes thousands and thousands AFTER hundreds of years. these kids were probably slowing since birth. Onarishma - 03/01/2011 08:19:22 PM 1380 Views
Re: yes thousands and thousands AFTER hundreds of years. Ava - 04/01/2011 12:21:59 PM 1206 Views
your premise is that first generation applies to anyone but them. Onarishma - 10/01/2011 09:25:02 PM 1251 Views
Aviendha + Mat (and Seta and Bethamin) are the best hopes. The Angry Druid - 09/01/2011 01:45:00 AM 1358 Views
From a plot standpoint I very much dislike Avienda's visions as well The Count - 20/01/2011 01:39:37 AM 1777 Views
Problem is, the fate of post-TG Randland depends on the viewing being heeded before TG. *NM* Lord Haart - 20/01/2011 10:07:15 AM 653 Views
The Light's victory in the Last Battle was already a foregone conclusion ranagrande - 21/01/2011 03:48:54 PM 1215 Views
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