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Exactly. *NM* everynametaken Send a noteboard - 30/12/2010 02:50:07 AM
The other Randland countries aren't exactly beacons of freedom, they are feudal societies, in some of which the nobles abuse the commoners much more than in the Seanchan lands and where the social mobility is non-existent. None of the Randland societies cares much about individual freedom either. Even the Aiel, who have no kings or nobility, always put the clan first and don't hesitate to force people like Aviendha into doing what's most useful for the clan instead of what she wants.

And of course, this saying you quoted sound nice, but it's hardly universal. For example, in Tarabon the situation was a complete anarchy, famine and civil strife before the Seanchan came, so can you really blame most Taraboners if they prefer the Seanchan rule to their own incompetent and totally corrupt nobles? I don't think this makes them cowards.

I am not a fan of the Seanchan, but their demonising doesn't make much sense IMO. They have their flaws, but they aren't the bastion of evil so many WoT readers are making them out to be.
But wine was the great assassin of both tradition and propriety...
-Brandon Sanderson, The Way of Kings
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Avienda's viewing and the Fields of Merrilor (spoilers) - 28/12/2010 06:21:05 PM 3276 Views
Timing - 28/12/2010 06:43:32 PM 1903 Views
Indeed...the bleak future makes the Last Battle almost an anti-climax... - 28/12/2010 08:20:31 PM 1992 Views
And yet, the only places of relative peace and shelter right now are Seanchan controlled lands. - 29/12/2010 03:21:37 AM 1545 Views
+1. - 29/12/2010 04:04:02 AM 1342 Views
Re: +1. - 07/01/2011 05:25:23 PM 1224 Views
Those who would give up permanent liberty in exchange for temporary security, deserve neither.. - 29/12/2010 10:27:35 AM 1348 Views
Says the person defending monarchies and oligarchies, some of them quite brutal. - 29/12/2010 02:12:56 PM 1317 Views
LoL. What is this "POV trap" that people refer to so often to make a point? - 29/12/2010 10:00:11 PM 1467 Views
"romantic characteristics" - 07/01/2011 06:06:31 AM 1185 Views
Re: "romantic characteristics" - 07/01/2011 05:30:33 PM 1212 Views
Don't blame the Seanchan, The Aiel made an excuse to start a war. - 08/01/2011 09:20:36 AM 1618 Views
Re: Those who would give up permanent liberty in exchange for temporary security, deserve neither.. - 29/12/2010 03:06:16 PM 1441 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 30/12/2010 02:50:07 AM 850 Views
They are pretty close to evil. Slavery being the big thing, but the crushing social scale is far - 31/12/2010 06:45:59 PM 1167 Views
The Aiel sold slaves to Shara, does that make them evil? No society in Randland is without flaws. - 07/01/2011 05:10:32 AM 1418 Views
you are missing my point - 07/01/2011 11:31:11 PM 1293 Views
We haven't had a POV from a NON-high-ranking Seanchan - 08/01/2011 03:13:26 AM 24796 Views
As to Bethamin ... - 20/01/2011 04:46:36 PM 1282 Views
No, you're missing the point. Benevolence is irrelevant. - 08/01/2011 09:48:51 AM 1198 Views
Re: No, you're missing the point. Benevolence is irrelevant. - 08/01/2011 10:04:18 AM 1250 Views
Well the Westlands aren't exactly modern Europe or USA either - 08/01/2011 11:00:31 AM 1201 Views
Re: Well the Westlands aren't exactly modern Europe or USA either - 09/01/2011 02:08:17 AM 1195 Views
That's funny, I'd choose modern day China in a second. - 09/01/2011 06:37:24 AM 1181 Views
Hong Kong is not an accurate representation of the rest of Modern China - 20/01/2011 04:50:20 PM 1175 Views
~sigh~ Cosmopolitan China is different than Rural China - 21/01/2011 01:00:17 AM 1177 Views
well there is also the fact that Hong Kong has different "rules" than even other major - 21/01/2011 05:38:46 PM 1228 Views
I'm not just talking about Hong Kong though... - 22/01/2011 09:36:20 AM 1250 Views
I've traveled extensively - 22/01/2011 06:02:47 PM 1186 Views
You've traveled to China extensively? - 22/01/2011 07:41:30 PM 1253 Views
Actually, China is changing. - 09/01/2011 06:32:58 AM 1224 Views
true to a point, yet China has been under one form or another of totalitarian rule for - 20/01/2011 04:57:37 PM 1198 Views
So? - 21/01/2011 01:20:18 AM 1308 Views
Double post *NM* - 21/01/2011 01:21:10 AM 669 Views
It's the comparative to the Seanchan empire I'm really getting at here, not saying China isn't - 21/01/2011 05:43:56 PM 1284 Views
I don't even know why China was brought up in the first place ~shrugs~ - 22/01/2011 10:04:59 AM 1129 Views
I totally agree with your last point, which is why I think RJ set them up to be the "Evil Empire" - 22/01/2011 06:12:46 PM 1212 Views
They're not entirely evil though, and RJ has written them that way - 22/01/2011 08:02:22 PM 1191 Views
not so much - 22/01/2011 09:54:38 PM 1159 Views
Your example is absurd. - 22/01/2011 10:53:06 PM 1102 Views
Ah yes, the "Jews can kill you with their minds" argument. *NM* - 23/01/2011 05:32:23 PM 671 Views
Please. Like anyone else in Randland is really free? - 30/12/2010 02:47:27 AM 1193 Views
It goes beyond the channelers. The Seanchan control the population - 31/12/2010 06:00:57 PM 1150 Views
Re: It goes beyond the channelers. The Seanchan control the population - 01/01/2011 10:58:22 PM 1272 Views
Maybe they're a remnant of humanity - 29/12/2010 04:41:40 AM 1353 Views
Re: Maybe they're a remnant of humanity - 29/12/2010 02:17:33 PM 1307 Views
Couple of flaws here - 31/12/2010 06:54:13 PM 1183 Views
You are right, here is a better analogy - 03/01/2011 06:23:16 PM 1185 Views
Even Hitler didn't think Jews could kill people with their minds - 03/01/2011 07:22:09 PM 1236 Views
It depends on Rand's sperm I guess - 28/12/2010 08:27:59 PM 1282 Views
No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... - 28/12/2010 08:31:27 PM 1364 Views
Re: No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... - 28/12/2010 08:50:28 PM 1239 Views
Re: No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... - 30/12/2010 03:56:55 PM 1283 Views
Because the Aiel are savages who have no place in a modern world - 28/12/2010 11:15:23 PM 1346 Views
Re: No, the Seanchan started it, by wanting to conquer the rest of the world... - 30/12/2010 04:01:00 PM 1297 Views
Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess - 28/12/2010 11:02:34 PM 1225 Views
Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess - 29/12/2010 04:37:04 AM 1235 Views
Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess - 29/12/2010 02:37:12 PM 1239 Views
Re: It depends on Rand's sperm I guess - 30/12/2010 04:02:31 PM 1477 Views
timeline in the books - 29/12/2010 03:34:45 PM 1306 Views
Re: timeline in the books - 29/12/2010 05:29:11 PM 1320 Views
Re: timeline in the books - 31/12/2010 01:18:32 PM 1206 Views
Aviendha + Mat (and Seta and Bethamin) are the best hopes. - 09/01/2011 01:45:00 AM 1253 Views

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