It seems an odd oversight, yes; I can't even recall her being Delved when the truth was revealed.
Joel Send a noteboard - 29/12/2010 12:40:00 PM
Unless she backs down and endures a very public and grating humiliation (or is revealed to be suffering lingering manipulation by Aran'gar), my only question is whether she'll be turned by a circle before she's forever broken.
I'm still incredibly shocked that this has never been followed up on. The fact that 1000 AS can't put 2 and 2 together and see that a FORSAKEN was nursing their Amyrlin and may have planted threads screams wrongness. And since Aran'gar is now dead, we will probably never know for sure just what Compulsion was used.
I have little doubt that there was Compulsion though, probably designed to incite mild paranoia and increase stubbornness. The irony is that the latter has served her well in her role (though not the former) up until confronting Rand.
I wonder if Nynaeve will actually end up being able to heal it the same way she did with Naeff. It's a little corny to have a super-healer character, but Nynaeve's scenes of late are written so well that I can't help but enjoy it anyway. As I said elsewhere, she distincts herself from Egwene not in her power, or her stubbornness, or willpower. Her strength, the one which Egwene most lacks, is actual empathy for others.
Yes, that certainly seems so; Egwene has gotten very good at absently and briefly noting the suffering incidental to her plans. Perhaps Nynaeve needs to take her up to Dragonmount for an epiphany, since Egwene seems to think she's the Dragon Reborn now. It was, after all, the thing Rand lacked that would've destroyed the world even in victory, the thing he cautions Nynaeve not to let the Tower "ruin" in her.
To be entirely honest I was leaving myself an out as much as Egwene; I don't think there's any hope for her on her current course, but also don't rule out the possibility she voluntarily descends from her arrogant precipice rather than falling meteorically. One way that could be accomplished narratively and credibly would be if her behavior is the result of Aran'gars Compulsion. It's even possible Aran'gar has her programmed to attack Rand and that's the other occasion on which Perrin must be present to save his life. Nynaeve knows what to look for, thanks to Rand, so she could spot it in a moment if she ever has the chance to look, and since Egwene apparently feels it's past time Nynaeve stopped wasting precious time assisting that irrelevant Dragon when she SHOULD be in the Tower preparing for the Amyrlin to defeat the DO she may get that chance.
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The significance of 23 stars (TOM Spoilers)
14/12/2010 11:48:55 PM
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It would be a first...
15/12/2010 02:46:33 AM
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Re: It would be a first...
15/12/2010 04:39:17 AM
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I think people aren't giving Egwene enough credit.
15/12/2010 04:59:09 AM
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She's not bringing everyone for a discussion, but for leverage to force him to change his mind.
19/12/2010 09:54:49 PM
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20/12/2010 01:50:39 AM
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Re:
20/12/2010 04:37:24 AM
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Sadly, the thing you reference four times isn't actually anywhere in the book.
29/12/2010 03:17:15 AM
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+1
29/12/2010 07:10:41 AM
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I think the Tower needs a singular leader, though you may be right.
29/12/2010 12:51:19 PM
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Re: It would be a first...
15/12/2010 12:43:49 PM
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Dear lord, you wrote the Egwene haters' ultimate fantasy right there
19/12/2010 01:41:55 AM
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One problematic issue...This assumes the Dark One cannot hold himself back once the Seals are broken
15/12/2010 07:57:53 AM
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Err, it's the other way around
15/12/2010 09:00:38 AM
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I see. It's the same thing, really, just looking at it from the opposite perspective...
15/12/2010 09:14:22 AM
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Don't you know it's all about the posturing
15/12/2010 09:40:15 AM
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agreed, it'd also be a terribly boring book to read if the DO was defensive
15/12/2010 09:56:37 AM
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It's more that you take it out of context
15/12/2010 11:32:36 AM
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The DO will be forced to act because breaking the seals is inherently an attempt to seal the bore...
15/12/2010 08:51:38 PM
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While I agree overall, I think this is a case where Rand/TDR mistakes his role
15/12/2010 05:37:25 PM
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I think Egwene is successful and Rand has to go to the Seanchan for female channeler assistance
18/12/2010 12:47:54 AM
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Egwene's dream seems a little more personal than that
18/12/2010 04:55:37 AM
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Yes
18/12/2010 07:57:35 AM
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Actually, I think Tuon will capture her, and then release her. *NM*
18/12/2010 02:47:42 PM
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Re: It would be a first...
18/12/2010 02:48:40 PM
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wow. I'm not an egwene hater but I will if the freaking idiot sitters & she are the stars
15/12/2010 12:02:12 PM
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I wish
16/12/2010 08:29:23 PM
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That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong.
19/12/2010 11:30:35 PM
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Man, that's the best take on Egwene I have ever read.
20/12/2010 12:38:07 AM
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Re: That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong.
20/12/2010 04:39:57 PM
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Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points.
29/12/2010 03:38:59 AM
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Re: Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points.
29/12/2010 07:32:49 AM
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It seems an odd oversight, yes; I can't even recall her being Delved when the truth was revealed.
29/12/2010 12:40:00 PM
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Ensure this value has at most 100 characters (it has 101).
29/12/2010 03:00:22 PM
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Ah, good point; Rand might have to do the job himself.
29/12/2010 06:43:44 PM
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More likely to be Flinn.
29/12/2010 08:18:19 PM
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Maybe, once he knows the signs and techniques.
30/12/2010 03:10:27 PM
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Not sure if Rand had seized the source yet - he wouldn't have wanted to do it in front of Ramshalan
30/12/2010 03:15:43 PM
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Not only must I agree with you, but I think you've divined Egwenes ultimate destiny.
29/12/2010 03:41:59 AM
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