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His raw strength is the same Sidious Send a noteboard - 21/12/2010 07:15:09 AM
So what's the deal with Rand's new superhuman One Power strength?

Without going into too much detail, can we put a rough approximation to it?

We know he is much more powerful than he was before. One theory was that he now had access to both his and Lews Therin's strength, thereby doubling his strength. That would make him twice as powerful as the strongest male Forsaken.

However, Sanderson gave us a hint of his new power when Egwene stated that she doubted the entire White Tower could have held Rand had he chosen to break free from them.

If this estimate (based on nothing more than a hunch) is even remotely accurate, then he must have the strength of as many as 100 men or more.

But it seems this new strength is accessed somewhat differently from his normal power. It operates a bit like a well, since Rand indicated that his annihilation of the Trollocs at Maradon left him drained for a long time thereafter. It seems that he has to use his new strength selectively, and that it takes time for his new "well" of strength to gradually fill up again.

Anyway, I was wondering why he would need Callandor, if his unaided strength is already about 100 times the strength of the strongest man.

Back in PoD Rand indicated that Callandor gave him approximately the strength of 100 men. It would appear that his new unaided strength is roughly in the same bracket.



Rand is not stronger in the OP, IMO. Naeff merely said that he's weaving more weaves than he'd ever seen before.

There's something clearly supernatural about Rand. When Egwene said that no one could hold him, I didn't see it as a function of his strength but rather that he can instantly make the OP fail when someone tries to use it against him. Much like he can restore crops and the weather, he can command the Pattern, and it won't allow the Dragon to be antagonized.

While weaving against the Trollocs I think the whole Pattern in that area obeyed him, which explained his amplified attacks, and why the darkfriends even far from Rand killed themselves. Nothing can challenge Rand, except perhaps Moridin, and only if the Dark One directly gives him his power, which I suspect will happen.
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Rand's new strength level - Approximately the power of two men, 10 men or 100 men? - 20/12/2010 06:58:18 PM 2488 Views
I've yet to be convinced that Rand's raw strength has increased. - 20/12/2010 07:14:43 PM 1086 Views
His power is clearly increased - 20/12/2010 07:59:02 PM 1098 Views
I think what was demonstrated in TOM was clearly 250 times in strength from KOD or more..... - 21/12/2010 12:11:54 AM 880 Views
he actually did have close to 100 with him - 18/01/2011 12:10:16 AM 632 Views
Re: His power is clearly increased - 21/12/2010 02:57:17 PM 778 Views
Re: His power is clearly increased - 21/12/2010 03:39:54 PM 727 Views
Hampered and fought the entire way by Rand, so, no, that won't be necessary. *NM* - 21/12/2010 05:00:06 PM 350 Views
What book did you read? - 21/12/2010 07:45:38 PM 646 Views
It was "Lews Therin," not Lews Therin. *NM* - 17/01/2011 11:02:02 PM 339 Views
Lews Therin has been dead for 3,000 years. *NM* - 21/12/2010 09:24:49 PM 318 Views
I agree *NM* - 20/12/2010 08:14:09 PM 327 Views
I agree as well. - 21/12/2010 01:14:28 AM 698 Views
Hey Shannow, what does your theory say about Rand's One Power level? - 20/12/2010 08:03:12 PM 702 Views
I say the strength level - a little bit more than before, just a little. - 21/12/2010 12:50:08 AM 881 Views
His raw strength is the same - 21/12/2010 07:15:09 AM 838 Views
So, can Rand materialize out of light and float now like Ishy in TDR? *NM* - 21/12/2010 11:39:29 PM 338 Views
I've read it as two things have happened to him. - 22/12/2010 02:14:26 AM 749 Views
Re: I've read it as two things have happened to him. - 22/12/2010 05:21:30 AM 836 Views
All three have; don't forget Perrin forging Mah'alleinir. *NM* - 17/01/2011 11:06:12 PM 340 Views

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