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Re: More explanations... moratcorlm Send a noteboard - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM
Egwene certainly commands more channelers directly than Tuon. Adding in the Novices and Accepted, Egwene has around 2000 women under her command.
We have no indication of whether that's more than Tuon can command. And the overwhelming majority of the novices are unable to channel very much; the Aes Sedai refuse to force them, while damane are forced routinely (as the a'dam makes the practice completely safe).
Added to that, the Wise Ones and Windfinders will almost certainly support the Aes Sedai fully, against the Seanchan.
The Wise Ones and Windfinders have their own commitments.
As for armies, there's Garth Bryne's 50000 added to Chubain's 50000. But Siuan tells us that Bryne's recruitment efforts have seen great success, in ToM. So, around 150,000 is more likely.
Right, if they can be mobilized in time, and if (as is tremendously unlikely) the Seanchan only have 200,000 or so soldiers. Not that all of those will be committed in any case; the Tower could probably be seized by a first strike well before Bryne's army at Merrilor could react.
Added to that, the armies of Andor and Cairhein, and probably many others, can be pressed into service behind the Tower. The Aiel will also likely help.
Andor and Cairhien cannot probably not be impressed in the first place; that would be Elayne's personal judgment call, whether or not the Hall censured her for it. And in any case, they're already committed elsewhere. The Last Battle's here, or hadn't you heard? Andor itself is under attack. Elayne has to prioritize.
Added to all this, Egwene has sa'angreal and angreal.
Well, she does if she brought them out of those storerooms the Seanchan will be coming through.
Just 13 sisters can transport a huge army, leaving all others free to fight, whereas the Seanchan will have to use nearly all their Damane to transport huge armies.
And if it comes to combat on a field of battle that will no doubt be useful. Unfortunately for the Aes Sedai, by the time that happened the White Tower would most likely have already been destroyed.
Provisional calendar for Towers of Midnight: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0ApFWTyzG9G_UdHZCUjQzVGNLeUJyMkUycXkzQlExSFE&output=html
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Egwene, a poor leader? redhand - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2170 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. lilltempest - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1322 Views
Well! No love lost there echooff - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 819 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? RabidWombat - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 1100 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Hot Pie - 16/12/2010 10:53:20 PM 1019 Views
If the Shadow had removed Elaida so Egwene was Amyrlin whilst Rand was still Dark ... ajfurst - 16/12/2010 11:56:08 PM 963 Views
Same thing if Elaida was in charge when meeting w/ Dark Rand. *NM* Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 02:10:20 AM 513 Views
Except Rand wouldn't go to the WT with Elaida in charge, without having to fight ajfurst - 17/12/2010 02:50:18 AM 1086 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM 1127 Views
Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? moratcorlm - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 892 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? fairfax - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 999 Views
That was the case a few books back Lord Haart - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 987 Views
Re: That was the case a few books back fairfax - 17/12/2010 10:14:36 AM 997 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Macharius - 17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM 1052 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM 831 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM 991 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM 899 Views
Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 545 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. fairfax - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 947 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1062 Views
That's not quite true. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 877 Views
That's not quite accurate. moratcorlm - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1137 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 852 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? fairfax - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 971 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 895 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 985 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue lilltempest - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1362 Views
I see them as being the same thing. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 991 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy A Deathwatch Guard - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 908 Views
I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM 891 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1002 Views
Agree with your comments. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1193 Views
But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 20/12/2010 06:17:17 PM 1300 Views
Re: But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters. Lord Haart - 22/12/2010 05:28:01 PM 1075 Views
You need to post more about Egwene Zeratul - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 957 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* Chas - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 503 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1030 Views
Yes, communication is key. Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 893 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lohikaarme - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 852 Views
Re: You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 02:41:25 PM 798 Views
Definitely... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 892 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* moratcorlm - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 454 Views
That's not right... Hot Pie - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 860 Views
Re: That's not right... fairfax - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 983 Views
What's said above. Plus Lohikaarme - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 831 Views
More explanations... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 858 Views
Re: More explanations... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 912 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. Lohikaarme - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 917 Views
Re: More explanations... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1040 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. BlackAdder - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 964 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. Joel - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 857 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 885 Views
RJ is more powerful. Joel - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 991 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 924 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... Lohikaarme - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 923 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 964 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 833 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 918 Views
One example of this... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 952 Views
Re: One example of this... moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 815 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... Zeratul - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 902 Views
That's not quite true. Chas - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 901 Views
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