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RJ is more powerful. Joel Send a noteboard - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM
The moment she mentions her Dream, she'll turn the tables on Rand.

First and foremost, that will cement the Aes Sedai behind her. They ignored her Dream and her interpretation of it once before, and paid greatly for it. They will not do so again.

The Wise Ones will completely support her, since they know, more than anyone else, that a Dreamer's interpretation is what counts.

With the WO and AS solidly behind Egwene, the Windfinders and the Kin will fall in line too. Already, you have what very neatly resembles the Fateful Concord.

Nynaeve might now disagree, but I'm unsure she'll disregard Egwene's dream. The true mystery in all this is why Egwene didn't lead her arguments against Rand with her Dream. Maybe she means to keep to the end for dramatic effect. Brandon screwed up by not showing her reasoning.

With all, or most, of the female channelers supporting Egwene, the nations will almost certainly go in her direction too.

And this is supported by Egwene's previous Dream, where Rand confronts a bunch of women around Egwene, and a Seanchan is one of them:

Rand confronting her, and the women with her, and one of them was a Seanchan.

It seems clear to me, that far from losing her power, she will consolidate it when she confronts Rand. A Latra-Lews type confrontation is brewing, and as in the past, I think both Rand and Egwene have a piece of the puzzle right.

Um... wasn't Latras plan to use the Choedan Kal in some never defined way? The Choedan Kals whose access keys were made in areas that fell to the Shadow ere they were completed and whose research teams were heavily infiltrated by the Forsaken without the Aes Sedai every knowing it? Exactly what did Latra Posae contribute apart from ensuring that no women were affected by the Taint? Bearing in mind that (admittedly mad) LTT still thinks the reason the DOs counterstrike was possible was due to the fact there were no women available to link.

Egwene is committed to stopping something SHE'S decided is unthinkable, which would be fine if Jordan hadn't made unmistakably clear it's going to happen wtf the Watcher of the Seals believes, Dreams or has inscribed on tablets from Mt. Horeb. If all the other saidar channelers want to get on that road to nowhere they certainly may, but they'll end up the same place. Egwene can line up every channeler of BOTH sexes and extort her childhood sweetheart with every army in Randland (she apparently intends to do precisely the latter) but it's going to happen whether she likes it or not. What in her Dream indicates otherwise? Perhaps she didn't mention it because all it would do is tell Rand she means to face him down with every available ally she can find, that she apparently even trusts a faceless Seanchan woman (almost certainly Tuon) more than him. Is there anything in the Dream to indicate she wins that confrontation, or just that it happens...?
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Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1614 Views
Well! No love lost there - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 1101 Views
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Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 1187 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1261 Views
That was the case a few books back - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 1267 Views
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Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 714 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 1212 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1323 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 1129 Views
That's not quite accurate. - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1370 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 1101 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 1253 Views
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She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1260 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1679 Views
I see them as being the same thing. - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1275 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 1171 Views
I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad. - 20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM 1159 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1269 Views
Agree with your comments. - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1624 Views
You need to post more about Egwene - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1242 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 679 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1290 Views
Yes, communication is key. - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 1132 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 1116 Views
Re: You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 02:41:25 PM 1034 Views
Definitely... - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 1143 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 609 Views
That's not right... - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 1122 Views
Re: That's not right... - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1245 Views
What's said above. Plus - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 1099 Views
More explanations... - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 1130 Views
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Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 1216 Views
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An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1219 Views
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She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 1140 Views
RJ is more powerful. - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1275 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 1183 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 1172 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1227 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 1116 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 1186 Views
One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1212 Views
Re: One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 1078 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 1157 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 1174 Views

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