Compound that with her unwillingness to really empathise with people, and it's quite clear she more or less has the same attitude that Dark Rand had: the ends justifies the means, people need decisions made for them, I know better than others, I have no time for the suffering of others.
She isn't as far down the spectrum as he was, but she is completely oblivious to it while with Dark Rand we have very tangible proof that he knew exactly how wretched he was and desperately wanted to change (though until VoG he didn't have hope that he could change). His interactions with Nynaeve in TGS are probably among my favorite moments in the entire series, they are so laden with depth. Egwene really suffers for not having scenes like that (Siuan would have been a perfect character to have this relationship with, but Egwene treats her more like Dark Rand treated Cadsuane).
She isn't as far down the spectrum as he was, but she is completely oblivious to it while with Dark Rand we have very tangible proof that he knew exactly how wretched he was and desperately wanted to change (though until VoG he didn't have hope that he could change). His interactions with Nynaeve in TGS are probably among my favorite moments in the entire series, they are so laden with depth. Egwene really suffers for not having scenes like that (Siuan would have been a perfect character to have this relationship with, but Egwene treats her more like Dark Rand treated Cadsuane).
She's certainly no more sparing than Rand of anyone, even themselves, in her pursuit of what she considers the proper goal. She's SYMpathetic, but only episodically, and usually in direct proportion to how significant someone is to her larger plan. Of course, she doesn't even have Rands role as Lights Champion and ta'veren to mitigate her behavior, but acts like she does. The Amyrlin is Watcher of the Seals, so OBVIOUSLY only a paragon of virtue need apply, and any upstart Reborn Dragons suggesting the Seals be DESTROYED is in the way of the Lights Champion (the Amyrlin). It's like she thinks restoring the Tower and winning Tarmon Gaidon are synonymous, so any sacrifice that goal requires, of anyone, is not only acceptable but obligatory.
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The significance of 23 stars (TOM Spoilers)
- 14/12/2010 11:48:55 PM
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It would be a first...
- 15/12/2010 02:46:33 AM
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Re: It would be a first...
- 15/12/2010 04:39:17 AM
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I think people aren't giving Egwene enough credit.
- 15/12/2010 04:59:09 AM
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She's not bringing everyone for a discussion, but for leverage to force him to change his mind.
- 19/12/2010 09:54:49 PM
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- 20/12/2010 01:50:39 AM
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- 20/12/2010 01:50:39 AM
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Re:
- 20/12/2010 04:37:24 AM
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- 20/12/2010 04:37:24 AM
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Sadly, the thing you reference four times isn't actually anywhere in the book.
- 29/12/2010 03:17:15 AM
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+1
- 29/12/2010 07:10:41 AM
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I think the Tower needs a singular leader, though you may be right.
- 29/12/2010 12:51:19 PM
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- 15/12/2010 12:43:49 PM
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Dear lord, you wrote the Egwene haters' ultimate fantasy right there
- 19/12/2010 01:41:55 AM
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One problematic issue...This assumes the Dark One cannot hold himself back once the Seals are broken
- 15/12/2010 07:57:53 AM
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Err, it's the other way around
- 15/12/2010 09:00:38 AM
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I see. It's the same thing, really, just looking at it from the opposite perspective...
- 15/12/2010 09:14:22 AM
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Don't you know it's all about the posturing
- 15/12/2010 09:40:15 AM
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agreed, it'd also be a terribly boring book to read if the DO was defensive
- 15/12/2010 09:56:37 AM
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It's more that you take it out of context
- 15/12/2010 11:32:36 AM
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The DO will be forced to act because breaking the seals is inherently an attempt to seal the bore...
- 15/12/2010 08:51:38 PM
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While I agree overall, I think this is a case where Rand/TDR mistakes his role
- 15/12/2010 05:37:25 PM
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I think Egwene is successful and Rand has to go to the Seanchan for female channeler assistance
- 18/12/2010 12:47:54 AM
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Egwene's dream seems a little more personal than that
- 18/12/2010 04:55:37 AM
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Yes
- 18/12/2010 07:57:35 AM
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Actually, I think Tuon will capture her, and then release her. *NM*
- 18/12/2010 02:47:42 PM
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Re: It would be a first...
- 18/12/2010 02:48:40 PM
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wow. I'm not an egwene hater but I will if the freaking idiot sitters & she are the stars
- 15/12/2010 12:02:12 PM
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I wish
- 16/12/2010 08:29:23 PM
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That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong.
- 19/12/2010 11:30:35 PM
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Man, that's the best take on Egwene I have ever read.
- 20/12/2010 12:38:07 AM
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+1
- 20/12/2010 01:07:24 AM
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You may be onto something there.
- 20/12/2010 01:35:46 AM
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Re: That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong.
- 20/12/2010 04:39:57 PM
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Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points.
- 29/12/2010 03:38:59 AM
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Re: Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points.
- 29/12/2010 07:32:49 AM
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It seems an odd oversight, yes; I can't even recall her being Delved when the truth was revealed.
- 29/12/2010 12:40:00 PM
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Ensure this value has at most 100 characters (it has 101).
- 29/12/2010 03:00:22 PM
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Ah, good point; Rand might have to do the job himself.
- 29/12/2010 06:43:44 PM
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More likely to be Flinn.
- 29/12/2010 08:18:19 PM
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Maybe, once he knows the signs and techniques.
- 30/12/2010 03:10:27 PM
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Not sure if Rand had seized the source yet - he wouldn't have wanted to do it in front of Ramshalan
- 30/12/2010 03:15:43 PM
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Not only must I agree with you, but I think you've divined Egwenes ultimate destiny.
- 29/12/2010 03:41:59 AM
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