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I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. Joel Send a noteboard - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM
Anyone who strongly likes the one and dislikes the other will probably resent that analgoy, and anyone who dislikes both will say it's justified.

Without getting into THAT, she could be in a great position to be The Great Unifier, except I think she's going to blow it by being bullheaded with Rand when both the Pattern and RJ are on his side. At this point he almost IS an UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT, and she seems more likely to be doing exactly what Rand has envisioned for her with the Westlands armies: Unified and consolidated virtually all the groups he hasn't been able to get to directly or otherwise so that he can just step in and take the reins.

She's got good charisma and adaptability, and she made the right decisions to restore the Tower to a degree of integrity and strength it hasn't had since long before Elaida usurped Siuans place. She's been right and steadfast in her convictions when everyone else was unanimously against her, and that's averted disaster numerous times. No Aes Sedai would dare gainsay her at this point; every one whose tried has ended up either falling in line or ruined forever, and those who remain, from both the Usurper Tower and the Tower in Exile, are unanimously behind her.

Unfortunately, she's just as defiantly wrong about the Seals, and unless SHE falls in line soon she's going to be publicly and spectacularly so. All her hard patient work in building a very real power base among various Aes Sedai and other channeling factions desperate for a leader will do her no good if she plummets to earth. That simply leaves a power vacuum into which Rand can step without a pause, but perhaps that's the point.

MY point is that just because someone goes from "maverick" to "party man" and back to "maverick" all in less than a year doesn't mean they aren't a good leader so long as they do it for sincere and legitimate reasons, though of course if they're simply changing their public positions like a weathervane in a twister to GAIN leadership it means exactly that. ;)
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Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2234 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1398 Views
Well! No love lost there - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 894 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 1170 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 10:53:20 PM 1081 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM 1174 Views
Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 952 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1060 Views
That was the case a few books back - 17/12/2010 07:44:32 AM 1061 Views
Re: That was the case a few books back - 17/12/2010 10:14:36 AM 1064 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM 1119 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM 894 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM 1052 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM 964 Views
Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 568 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 1014 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1128 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 940 Views
That's not quite accurate. - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1178 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 892 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 02:02:05 AM 1045 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 957 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1045 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1431 Views
I see them as being the same thing. - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1055 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 973 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1068 Views
Agree with your comments. - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1271 Views
You need to post more about Egwene - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1021 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 531 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1092 Views
Yes, communication is key. - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 953 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 915 Views
Re: You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 02:41:25 PM 839 Views
Definitely... - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 956 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 484 Views
That's not right... - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 924 Views
Re: That's not right... - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1045 Views
What's said above. Plus - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 894 Views
More explanations... - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 918 Views
Re: More explanations... - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 975 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 981 Views
Re: More explanations... - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1102 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1024 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 925 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 946 Views
RJ is more powerful. - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1066 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 984 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 986 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1019 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 888 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 980 Views
One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1015 Views
Re: One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 881 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 960 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 978 Views

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