Honestly, Rand, Mat and Perrin have had it pretty easy next to the women in this series.
Yeah, 'cause spending 2 years knowing that you'll turn into a human wolf and then losing your wife to a bunch of savages for months is easy.
So is having your eye pulled out for someone you never really cared for. Or knowing that your doomed a lover to one of the most grisly deaths possible.
And of course, knowing that you're doomed to more or less break the world again (even in the case of a victory) is easy to handle. Just like spending weeks traveling alone, hunted by darkfriends and shadowspawn, using a barely-controllable force that you know is turning you insane. Then causing the deaths of tens, then hundreds, then thousands, then tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of people by your actions. And spending weeks inside a box which is smaller than a coffin, let out only to be beaten while you watch the woman you love being beaten even harder. Then having your hand BURNT OFF and not having the time to even consider it. Then seeing the woman who did that to you take control of your mind and almost cause you to kill the woman you love.
That's just a few moments. Please, which of the wondergirls have experienced anything worse than ANY of those moments? Nynaeve is the only one who has a legitimate fear of loss (Lan). Elayne makes me sick (walking in to danger while pregnant). Egwene has been spanked a few times, then put in prison. The a'dam was bad, yes, but she clearly hasn't moved past that the way the other characters have moved past their fears (Rand accepts who he is, Perrin has balance with the wolf, Mat freely gave up his eye. Even Nynaeve let Lan go).
Writing this has made me realize what I dislike the most about Egwene and Elayne - I've never felt that they've actually sacrificed anything for other people. If Egwene can forgive the Seanchan (from a position of humility, rather than being holier-than-thou, the latter of which wouldn't be a sacrifice of opinion at all), I might actually gain some respect for her.
This message last edited by Lord Haart on 18/12/2010 at 05:24:22 AM
Egwene, a poor leader?
16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM
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Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician.
16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader?
16/12/2010 10:53:20 PM
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If the Shadow had removed Elaida so Egwene was Amyrlin whilst Rand was still Dark ...
16/12/2010 11:56:08 PM
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Same thing if Elaida was in charge when meeting w/ Dark Rand. *NM*
17/12/2010 02:10:20 AM
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Except Rand wouldn't go to the WT with Elaida in charge, without having to fight
17/12/2010 02:50:18 AM
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader?
17/12/2010 03:07:40 AM
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Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are?
17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM
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Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are?
17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader?
17/12/2010 02:30:48 PM
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17/12/2010 08:25:39 PM
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader?
18/12/2010 05:06:21 AM
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader?
19/12/2010 08:41:31 PM
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Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM*
20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM
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Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends.
20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM
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And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene
20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader?
20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM
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She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV
17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM
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Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue
17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM
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I see them as being the same thing.
17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM
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I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy
17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM
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I would say that in the grand scheme of things, Rand's had good to balance out the bad.
20/12/2010 06:27:35 PM
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Funniest statement I've ever seen on here.
18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM
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But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters.
20/12/2010 06:17:17 PM
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Re: But you are just undervaluing Egwene's struggles in comparison to the other characters.
22/12/2010 05:28:01 PM
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Yes, but for completely different reasons...
18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM
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You think Egwene has more power than Tuon?
18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM
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Definitely...
18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM
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I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts.
20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM
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She has a pretty powerful weapon...
20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM
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RJ is more powerful.
20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM
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Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon...
20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM
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Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon...
20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM
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Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon...
20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM
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