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Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM
Honestly, Rand, Mat and Perrin have had it pretty easy next to the women in this series.


Yeah, 'cause spending 2 years knowing that you'll turn into a human wolf and then losing your wife to a bunch of savages for months is easy.

So is having your eye pulled out for someone you never really cared for. Or knowing that your doomed a lover to one of the most grisly deaths possible.

And of course, knowing that you're doomed to more or less break the world again (even in the case of a victory) is easy to handle. Just like spending weeks traveling alone, hunted by darkfriends and shadowspawn, using a barely-controllable force that you know is turning you insane. Then causing the deaths of tens, then hundreds, then thousands, then tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of people by your actions. And spending weeks inside a box which is smaller than a coffin, let out only to be beaten while you watch the woman you love being beaten even harder. Then having your hand BURNT OFF and not having the time to even consider it. Then seeing the woman who did that to you take control of your mind and almost cause you to kill the woman you love.

That's just a few moments. Please, which of the wondergirls have experienced anything worse than ANY of those moments? Nynaeve is the only one who has a legitimate fear of loss (Lan). Elayne makes me sick (walking in to danger while pregnant). Egwene has been spanked a few times, then put in prison. The a'dam was bad, yes, but she clearly hasn't moved past that the way the other characters have moved past their fears (Rand accepts who he is, Perrin has balance with the wolf, Mat freely gave up his eye. Even Nynaeve let Lan go).

Writing this has made me realize what I dislike the most about Egwene and Elayne - I've never felt that they've actually sacrificed anything for other people. If Egwene can forgive the Seanchan (from a position of humility, rather than being holier-than-thou, the latter of which wouldn't be a sacrifice of opinion at all), I might actually gain some respect for her.
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Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 05:59:15 PM 2224 Views
Egwene isn't supposed to be a leader. She's a dictator and a politician. - 16/12/2010 08:21:13 PM 1386 Views
Well! No love lost there - 17/12/2010 01:52:59 PM 877 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 16/12/2010 09:35:44 PM 1163 Views
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Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 04:52:34 AM 943 Views
Re: Exactly how loyal do you think Nynaeve and Elayne are? - 17/12/2010 05:44:30 AM 1050 Views
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Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. *NM* - 20/12/2010 12:14:55 AM 563 Views
Re: Torturing Nynaeve for exclusively her own political ends. - 20/12/2010 01:24:12 AM 999 Views
And the most painful torments were caused by Egwene - 20/12/2010 09:31:44 AM 1116 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 06:47:33 PM 931 Views
That's not quite accurate. - 21/12/2010 01:22:26 AM 1168 Views
Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 20/12/2010 12:57:42 AM 882 Views
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Re: Egwene, a poor leader? - 22/12/2010 07:08:37 AM 947 Views
She has the same power base as any Amyrlin - the Aes Sedai, the artisans, Guards & citizens of TV - 17/12/2010 05:51:20 PM 1035 Views
Ta'veren vs. Mary Sue - 17/12/2010 07:33:28 PM 1421 Views
I see them as being the same thing. - 17/12/2010 08:11:30 PM 1044 Views
I don't think the case can be made for Rand having it easy - 17/12/2010 11:04:58 PM 964 Views
Funniest statement I've ever seen on here. - 18/12/2010 05:22:28 AM 1059 Views
Agree with your comments. - 20/12/2010 03:12:32 PM 1254 Views
You need to post more about Egwene - 17/12/2010 08:16:19 PM 1011 Views
Nah. Just a hyopcrite. *NM* - 17/12/2010 09:28:28 PM 526 Views
Yes, but for completely different reasons... - 18/12/2010 12:35:23 AM 1080 Views
Yes, communication is key. - 18/12/2010 05:32:01 AM 945 Views
You think Egwene has more power than Tuon? - 18/12/2010 12:27:01 PM 905 Views
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Definitely... - 18/12/2010 03:24:12 PM 945 Views
Where does the 200000 number come from? *NM* - 18/12/2010 03:36:22 PM 479 Views
That's not right... - 19/12/2010 12:56:25 AM 910 Views
Re: That's not right... - 19/12/2010 11:38:54 PM 1035 Views
What's said above. Plus - 19/12/2010 11:00:42 AM 885 Views
More explanations... - 20/12/2010 02:51:25 AM 908 Views
Re: More explanations... - 20/12/2010 09:40:46 AM 963 Views
Aiel, Cairhien and Andor are NOT under Egwenes power. - 20/12/2010 02:46:44 PM 971 Views
Re: More explanations... - 20/12/2010 03:58:58 PM 1093 Views
An Amyrlin doesn't really have a power base. - 18/12/2010 05:43:12 AM 1017 Views
I think comparing Egwene to McCain is asking for trouble on several fronts. - 20/12/2010 12:33:04 AM 916 Views
She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 02:41:32 AM 932 Views
RJ is more powerful. - 20/12/2010 03:25:49 AM 1055 Views
I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 20/12/2010 03:58:03 AM 973 Views
Re: I'd advise a re-read. Of ToM, and maybe the whole series... - 21/12/2010 09:08:20 PM 977 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:46:22 AM 1010 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 09:55:03 AM 880 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 10:27:59 AM 972 Views
One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:15:03 AM 1005 Views
Re: One example of this... - 20/12/2010 11:22:10 AM 871 Views
Re: She has a pretty powerful weapon... - 20/12/2010 11:08:35 AM 951 Views
That's not quite true. - 20/12/2010 10:35:45 PM 965 Views

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