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While I agree overall, I think this is a case where Rand/TDR mistakes his role RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 15/12/2010 05:37:25 PM
We've seen this even after he became BuddhaRand - he acknowledges that some of his former "opponents" on the side of the Light, such as Siuan, Cadsuane, Egwene, did what they had to do but he still has a blind spot. It seems to me that the Pattern doesn't necessarily want to place him in a position where he dictates his terms to all the world leaders. I think that this meeting will not go the way he pictured it, and it seems that he has been set up for disaster. You had mentioned that the Shadow was aware of his timeline, but I also think that Moridin planned for it. We haven't seen a POV from Moridin regarding BuddhaRand, yet, but I do get the impression that BuddhaRand has an inflated opinion of himself - he keeps thinking this transcendent moment makes him more than mortal and he has been surprised a few times that he gets angry or can be goaded just like before. In some ways, he is even more vulnerable to desperation while Egwene and the others already knew what was at stake.
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I think people aren't giving Egwene enough credit. LadyLorraine - 15/12/2010 04:59:09 AM 1254 Views
She's not bringing everyone for a discussion, but for leverage to force him to change his mind. Joel - 19/12/2010 09:54:49 PM 1178 Views
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Re: Lord Haart - 20/12/2010 04:37:24 AM 1017 Views
Huh? fionwe1987 - 20/12/2010 05:09:39 AM 1114 Views
I find the theory moratcorlm - 20/12/2010 09:18:34 AM 1016 Views
That's a new one to me guttering flame - 20/12/2010 09:45:09 AM 1109 Views
Your theory is very unlikely guttering flame - 20/12/2010 09:50:26 AM 1121 Views
If it was a plant, why would it be so oblique? Lord Haart - 29/12/2010 07:22:58 AM 974 Views
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That's not true. Chas - 21/12/2010 02:22:50 AM 1255 Views
Sadly, the thing you reference four times isn't actually anywhere in the book. Joel - 29/12/2010 03:17:15 AM 1246 Views
+1 Lord Haart - 29/12/2010 07:10:41 AM 1135 Views
I think the Tower needs a singular leader, though you may be right. Joel - 29/12/2010 12:51:19 PM 1138 Views
Don't take this the wrong way, but I think I love you. (edited) lilltempest - 29/12/2010 06:43:32 PM 1391 Views
Ah, if only I could sell the concept of sister-wives.... Joel - 29/12/2010 07:09:56 PM 1055 Views
Re: It would be a first... DomA - 15/12/2010 12:43:49 PM 1614 Views
Dear lord, you wrote the Egwene haters' ultimate fantasy right there newyorkersedai - 19/12/2010 01:41:55 AM 1124 Views
Don't think of use as Egwene haters... Lord Haart - 19/12/2010 04:32:11 AM 1076 Views
One problematic issue...This assumes the Dark One cannot hold himself back once the Seals are broken Shannow - 15/12/2010 07:57:53 AM 1257 Views
Err, it's the other way around guttering flame - 15/12/2010 09:00:38 AM 1186 Views
I see. It's the same thing, really, just looking at it from the opposite perspective... Shannow - 15/12/2010 09:14:22 AM 1263 Views
Don't you know it's all about the posturing guttering flame - 15/12/2010 09:40:15 AM 1227 Views
agreed, it'd also be a terribly boring book to read if the DO was defensive Iceman - 15/12/2010 09:56:37 AM 1233 Views
It's more that you take it out of context DomA - 15/12/2010 11:32:36 AM 1236 Views
So then... Shannow - 15/12/2010 06:35:02 PM 1211 Views
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Mierin guttering flame - 16/12/2010 08:13:55 AM 1319 Views
It would be a good strategy for a conventional war, but redhand - 16/12/2010 07:32:30 AM 1157 Views
The DO will be forced to act because breaking the seals is inherently an attempt to seal the bore... Onarishma - 15/12/2010 08:51:38 PM 1151 Views
Nature of the DO Kieran - 15/12/2010 10:38:24 PM 1044 Views
While I agree overall, I think this is a case where Rand/TDR mistakes his role RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2010 05:37:25 PM 1017 Views
I don't see why Egwene would oppose his plan guttering flame - 15/12/2010 06:17:47 PM 1038 Views
I don't think that's the issue. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 15/12/2010 07:31:03 PM 1102 Views
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Egwene's dream seems a little more personal than that Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 04:55:37 AM 1002 Views
Yes moratcorlm - 18/12/2010 07:57:35 AM 1033 Views
Actually, I think Tuon will capture her, and then release her. *NM* Lord Haart - 18/12/2010 02:47:42 PM 556 Views
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Those are vewings and prophesies... fionwe1987 - 18/12/2010 03:43:55 PM 928 Views
wow. I'm not an egwene hater but I will if the freaking idiot sitters & she are the stars newyorkersedai - 15/12/2010 12:02:12 PM 1126 Views
I wish lilltempest - 16/12/2010 08:29:23 PM 1081 Views
That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong. Joel - 19/12/2010 11:30:35 PM 1479 Views
Man, that's the best take on Egwene I have ever read. Chas - 20/12/2010 12:38:07 AM 1069 Views
+1 Lord Haart - 20/12/2010 01:07:24 AM 1155 Views
You may be onto something there. Joel - 20/12/2010 01:35:46 AM 1093 Views
Thanks. Joel - 20/12/2010 01:24:42 AM 1053 Views
Re: That's just it: Egwene is not only wrong, she's narratively wrong. AshaShan - 20/12/2010 04:39:57 PM 1168 Views
Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points. Joel - 29/12/2010 03:38:59 AM 1106 Views
Re: Wish I'd read this sooner, 'cos I agree on several points. Lord Haart - 29/12/2010 07:32:49 AM 1065 Views
It seems an odd oversight, yes; I can't even recall her being Delved when the truth was revealed. Joel - 29/12/2010 12:40:00 PM 1103 Views
Ensure this value has at most 100 characters (it has 101). Lord Haart - 29/12/2010 03:00:22 PM 2818 Views
Ah, good point; Rand might have to do the job himself. Joel - 29/12/2010 06:43:44 PM 1064 Views
More likely to be Flinn. Lohikaarme - 29/12/2010 08:18:19 PM 1087 Views
Maybe, once he knows the signs and techniques. Joel - 30/12/2010 03:10:27 PM 1082 Views
Not sure if Rand had seized the source yet - he wouldn't have wanted to do it in front of Ramshalan Lord Haart - 30/12/2010 03:15:43 PM 1037 Views
Good point, too. Joel - 30/12/2010 03:17:06 PM 1024 Views
He was holding the gateway open. *NM* moratcorlm - 30/12/2010 04:27:25 PM 533 Views
Thanks, had forgotten that. Joel - 31/12/2010 04:43:25 AM 1015 Views
Not only must I agree with you, but I think you've divined Egwenes ultimate destiny. Joel - 29/12/2010 03:41:59 AM 1115 Views
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