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"Anybody who has a different world view than mine must be destroyed" Japhy Send a noteboard - 14/12/2010 09:56:37 PM
Basically, because he lowered himself to them, they saw the Randlanders as weak and fit for conquest.

The answer is, Rand must not bow to the Empress, but must dominate her in the same way that he dominated the Aes Sedai in the Tower when he presented himself to Egwene.

Egwene stated that she believed that the entire Tower would not have been able to overcome Rand, even if they tried.

The same would hold true with Tuon and her entourage.

The Seanchan must be overcome. That much is clear.

It seems that it won't happen though. Rand will bow to the Empress in his new pacifist manner, win the Last Battle, and then allow the monstrous, enslaving Seanchan Empire to conquer the world after he is gone.

I could hardly think of a fate worse than that. And to think he could have prevented it all with the Choedan Kal.


Artur Hawkwing's descendents who traveled to a distant continent to conquer, isolated from the rest of the world and any advances that took place. Tricked into despising those who can channel, leashing them for their own use. "Free" of the influence of the White Tower and the "benevolent" Aes Sedai. Ruled not by King or Queen but by an Empress (not Emperor?). Traveled back to their homeland to once again reclaim what they view to be rightfully theirs.

It's clear you don't like the Seanchan but why? From your posts in this thread it is clear you don't agree with them ideologically. Do not kings and queens hold a dictatorship over their lands? Why does an empress in Seanchan suddenly make them evil?

Those people they enslave are the ones they fear. Male channelers are sent to their death or gentled by many different "cultures" in Randland because they are feared. This is the same thing the Seanchan are doing with female channelers. Controlling that which they fear and turning them into weapons. From the Seanchan point of view, there is nothing wrong with this and is indeed one of only two options, enslave or kill.

Elayne has it right in trying (half-heartedly it seems) to convince the Seanchan in the error of their ways. To fight them would achieve nothing but more destruction, to educate them will lead to peace.

Invaders to the people allied with Rand, saviours to the people living in the countries they now hold, and sons and daughters returning home from a long trip abroad to the Seanchan themselves.

Maybe try to see things from a different perspective.
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Aviendha's visions - 28/11/2010 03:33:01 AM 2165 Views
It seems clear to me that Rand bowing to the Seanchan Empress is the cause of all the problems... - 28/11/2010 09:06:50 AM 998 Views
Re: It seems clear to me - 28/11/2010 09:39:48 AM 831 Views
Not the sole cause - 28/11/2010 02:03:44 PM 848 Views
"Anybody who has a different world view than mine must be destroyed" - 14/12/2010 09:56:37 PM 831 Views
Re: Aviendha's visions - 28/11/2010 01:38:10 PM 912 Views
I think it's been delayed to AMoL, not forgotten. - 28/11/2010 02:36:28 PM 711 Views
I agree, it hasn't been forgotten - 28/11/2010 07:42:35 PM 822 Views
Aviendha's visions were the most disturbing scene I have ever read in the entire Wot series... - 28/11/2010 02:16:36 PM 1090 Views
I was out-disturbed by the mass suicide of the Amayar, but this was disturbing in a different way - 28/11/2010 02:38:38 PM 793 Views
unless - 28/11/2010 02:45:38 PM 760 Views
Re: unless - 28/11/2010 10:33:39 PM 778 Views
Hence why I said "utilitarian". It's far from ethical or just. - 29/11/2010 12:20:03 AM 748 Views
What the hell is good about a "fierce warrior culture"? - 29/11/2010 12:43:20 AM 729 Views
Re: Aviendha's visions - 29/11/2010 01:20:46 AM 669 Views
Re: Aviendha's visions - 14/12/2010 03:43:48 PM 698 Views

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