I wonder how they raised people in the AOL? Rand refers to himself being properly raised.
That Lews Therin was apprenticed to Lanfear?
She was a full fledged Aes Sedai researcher when he was a promising student
The story line is that LTT and Lanfear dated while they were young students "just learning about their abilities".
LTT was a world leader and broke up with Mieren because she loved his position more than she loved him.
Actually, it's extremely unlikely Mierin was still LTT's lover when he rose to a leadership position, given his age at the Sealing. A woman as ambitious as Mierin would long have forced LTT to marry her if they were together for decades or centuries (neither of them really sound as if they're a real old couple, beside. It's rather all very "adolescent". It's even that appearance Lanfear used to approach Rand at first, the way she looked in her youth, when she dated LTT)
The way LTT spoke of the relationship, it began and ended in their youth. Lanfear latched on the strongest man of his generation, and eventually he realized she was not loving him for himself, but saw only his strength and skills as tools to make herself the greatest AS of the Age (and her career suggests strongly that despite her strength Lanfear didn't have the talent and human skills, and the dedication to work hard to get what she wanted probably, nor the mentality for selfless service that was a way to climb socially in the AOL, to become of the great AS of her Age). So LTT put an end to the relationship.
When LTT said Mierin loved power, he seemed to speak even more of the OP than social/political power. That makes sense, because this remains the obsession of Lanfear's life. The strongest man of the Age, her obsession with this new source of power, her obsession in the series with the CK and san'angreal etc. Lanfear was a middling scientist among geniuses as the most advanced research center. She didn't seem interested one bit in politics. She's not Barid Bel Medar. Her obsession with power is more a god-complex.
Many feel LTT was the bad guy in this, but now that we know his age, there seems to be another story there. LTT was deeply in love with Mierin, and realizing she didn't love him but was using him broke his heart. We can't know for sure, but what happened with Lanfear seems to have driven him away from (at least serious) relationships, until he met Ilyena centuries later. Until Ilyena, he may have feared the Mierins/Berelains too much to let himself fall in love.
That may be what spited Mierin so much: his loneliness pleased her ego, as he had never replaced her, until he finally met Ilyena and married her 50 years before the WOS.
Nynaeve's stupidity and the test for Aes Sedai
07/12/2010 08:27:05 PM
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Way to totally misunderstand the chapter
07/12/2010 09:39:08 PM
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I second this
07/12/2010 10:10:24 PM
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your bold is stuck. *NM*
07/12/2010 10:21:22 PM
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On the whole, the test is innappropriate IMO
07/12/2010 09:40:08 PM
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nice post
08/12/2010 09:20:02 AM
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Isn't it implied
08/12/2010 02:16:58 PM
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no they were students together
08/12/2010 05:33:17 PM
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No, Lanfear was older than Lews
08/12/2010 07:21:45 PM
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Where on earth did you get that from?
08/12/2010 08:41:16 PM
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Re: Where on earth did you get that from?
09/12/2010 10:27:20 AM
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Re: Where on earth did you get that from?
09/12/2010 03:56:32 PM
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I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time
09/12/2010 04:34:23 PM
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Re: I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time
09/12/2010 05:43:40 PM
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I think skill with Saidar is easy enough to judge as it's a simple matter to see the skill
08/12/2010 05:37:27 PM
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I think the greens should have been on Nynaeve's side as well
08/12/2010 06:18:16 PM
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Problem is they are Aes Sedai and thus more likley to be political rather than rational! *NM*
08/12/2010 08:52:00 PM
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Re: nice post
09/12/2010 01:23:50 PM
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On the matter of strength
09/12/2010 08:51:36 PM
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Strength was "prized" in the AoL ... but lack of strength was not a negative
12/12/2010 01:41:08 AM
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Yes. How dare she not conform with every other fucking mindless stupid WT Aes Sedai *NM*
07/12/2010 11:36:52 PM
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Status is not an end in itself. *NM*
07/12/2010 11:52:37 PM
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They're not really stupid...
08/12/2010 01:00:20 AM
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Not saying they are. It's just that most AS that we've come across
08/12/2010 02:20:05 AM
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They're constantly outsmarted by a teenage girl that has spent most of her life in a damn farm.
08/12/2010 10:32:50 AM
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Bah...
09/12/2010 10:56:24 AM
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I did not say all Aes Sedai are stupid, I said all WT Aes Sedai are stupid.
10/12/2010 09:19:52 AM
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You are not only wrong in your call,
08/12/2010 04:39:44 AM
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Re: You are not only wrong in your call,
08/12/2010 09:13:37 AM
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if that is the purpose of the test
08/12/2010 01:34:45 PM
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minor disagreement
08/12/2010 05:27:51 PM
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Yes, but you can be not-panicked and not calm of body
08/12/2010 06:38:56 PM
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not really the same thing as what the AS are getting at though
08/12/2010 09:02:05 PM
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that's retarded, imo
09/12/2010 12:21:27 AM
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Oh it's totally stupid!
09/12/2010 04:37:14 PM
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No I know why she took the job. I just don't understand why she got it
09/12/2010 04:52:34 PM
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I think Elaida just smarmed up at the right time, Morgase was very young then
09/12/2010 05:52:29 PM
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Oh. Well, I'm sorry then.
08/12/2010 06:48:50 PM
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I think it has already been established that the purpose of the test is to ensure that
08/12/2010 09:59:18 PM
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Yeah, but how does that work?
08/12/2010 10:24:35 PM
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Somewhere in the sub-conscious they know what they're doing is important to them.
09/12/2010 12:20:47 AM
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Even so, it wouldn't work.
09/12/2010 03:32:55 AM
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I think if this thread has established anything it's that the test is severely flawed. *NM*
09/12/2010 09:24:48 PM
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Another headless chicken example.
09/12/2010 12:30:02 AM
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the headless chicken is just such a lovely metaphor for panic
*NM*
09/12/2010 04:48:11 AM
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Re: Oh. Well, I'm sorry then.
09/12/2010 12:07:15 PM
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You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right"
09/12/2010 02:59:50 AM
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Re: You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right"
09/12/2010 09:26:21 AM
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That's not the dilema
09/12/2010 05:23:19 PM
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One of those few times where I completely agree with Cannoli. Give over Sidious. You're wrong.
09/12/2010 09:55:20 PM
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That's not what it's really about
10/12/2010 05:44:12 AM
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This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
09/12/2010 03:46:31 AM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
09/12/2010 09:40:09 AM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
09/12/2010 02:04:02 PM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
09/12/2010 11:26:40 AM
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One of those few times where I completely agree with fionwe1987. Give over Sidious. You're wrong.
10/12/2010 03:53:25 PM
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