By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom?
Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 07:32:42 AM
What does this even mean? If your freedom will get you shortened by a head if you exercise it too freely, and your daughters will be raped by lords whether you exercise it or not, and you're as confined by circumstance as any da'covale is by law, how is this status as "free men" any different than slaves in Rome or America or whatnot turning to religions for the promise of "eternal life"?
All actions entail consequences and none of us are free to do anything we so please without repercussions. Even today, there are things I might choose to do that would result in my death.
Such a definition of freedom being therefore completely inadequate in defining slavery due to its failure to actually allow a category distinct from slaves and therefore rendering the term as an identifier a failure, this is clearly not the definition that was used.
Being free men, peasants were allowed to come and go as they pleased, to own things, including land, and were entitled to justice through the local law (the fairness and corruption of the law or its officials being irrelevant to this issue).
But slavery, incidentally, is not defined by the lack of freedom, though lack of freedom is a consequence of slavery. What defines a slave is that they are property of someone else, they are entirely under the domination of another. Peasants aren't slaves.
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08/12/2010 12:55:27 AM
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Aviendha's vision is utterly impossible.
08/12/2010 03:34:05 AM
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Fuck the Aiel and the White Tower. Go Team Seanchan!
08/12/2010 09:20:44 AM
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Eh?
08/12/2010 09:11:17 PM
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Peasants aren't slaves? Are you fucking kidding me?
08/12/2010 11:32:18 PM
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yes, but the Seanchan aren't keeping their culture to themselves
09/12/2010 12:17:36 AM
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And Randlanders aren't forcing their beliefs on others?
09/12/2010 02:22:11 AM
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That's plain stupid...
09/12/2010 06:41:49 AM
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You call it "Invasion." They call it "The Return"
09/12/2010 08:21:00 AM
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Crap alert!
09/12/2010 01:26:37 PM
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Re: Crap alert!
10/12/2010 01:51:42 AM
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Re: Crap alert!
10/12/2010 02:25:25 AM
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If Britian has the resources or the desire to do so, then of course.
10/12/2010 07:10:15 AM
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Re: You call it "Invasion." They call it "The Return"
09/12/2010 03:49:10 PM
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Yes, this.
09/12/2010 07:17:52 PM
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Peasants aren't slaves.
09/12/2010 12:19:11 AM
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"But they were free men."
09/12/2010 06:20:10 AM
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By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom?
09/12/2010 07:32:42 AM
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Re: By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom?
09/12/2010 07:41:23 AM
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Re: By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom?
09/12/2010 08:23:03 AM
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Re: By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom?
09/12/2010 09:45:14 AM
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Re: By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom?
09/12/2010 06:39:16 PM
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Is there anything you'd like to correct about what you just said?
09/12/2010 07:43:56 PM
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~shrugs~ I prefer using "Peasant" rather than "Serf"
09/12/2010 08:06:19 AM
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They're really different things.
09/12/2010 08:26:26 AM
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Not really.
09/12/2010 08:40:32 AM
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Sure, if you insist on being wrong, it's not like I can stop you. *NM*
09/12/2010 06:41:18 PM
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They're the same thing, you're just being anal about it. *NM*
10/12/2010 01:42:28 AM
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If that is what you wish to believe.
10/12/2010 05:00:46 AM
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So.... you're saying the Peasant is the equivalent of a Marine Biologist in your example?
10/12/2010 07:03:32 AM
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gai'shain aren't really comparable to damane
08/12/2010 10:02:54 PM
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The Shaido made precedent, it's done. *NM*
08/12/2010 11:39:09 PM
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I disagree.
09/12/2010 07:22:36 AM
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Bullshit
09/12/2010 08:00:10 AM
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Reply to both
09/12/2010 08:23:08 AM
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Re: Reply to both
09/12/2010 10:03:26 AM
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Er, just because something was done, doesn't mean it will become the norm.
09/12/2010 04:48:20 PM
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Re: Er, just because something was done, doesn't mean it will become the norm.
09/12/2010 05:53:24 PM
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I actually think her vision will prevent Rand from Bowing to Tuon
09/12/2010 04:53:25 PM
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