They belong to an arrogant and near all powerful organization that's shaped them from youth so they would see the world from their narrow perspective.
An important thing is that the Tower doesn't recruit much. They let women come to the Tower to be tested. It goes without saying that most of these women who decide to go get tested isn't fundamentally opposed to the the ways and worldview of Tar Valon. They wish to join that organization. All of them but "wilders", who have no choice and are found and trained by the Tower. That's why the rest of the Tower dislikes wilders so much. Unlike them, they never dreamed of joining the Tower, this was pushed on them, and many don't have the right frame of mind to think the way the other AS do. This is what happens with Nynaeve. She didn't come admiring the WT, she came hating it and seeing flaws upon flaws in sisters like Moiraine. Nynaeve has a very personal vision of what AS should be that she developped around how she sees herself and how she reconcile her personality with becoming a sister. Unlike most she never got the years of training to "reshape" her views. Egwene is more like a sponge - her motto could be "When in Rome, act like the Romans". She did that everywhere she went, though she's becoming more and more critical as she wizen up, and is more open now to questionning her worldviews. Elayne is also more conservative, though her views on AS got influenced a lot by Nynaeve's, and by her role as Queen (she now tends to see the benefits of channellers with the eyes of a Queen rather than an AS. She lost track that the WT must remain neutral and can't favour a nation over the others - she'll no doubt be reminded of this by Egwene soon). The same might have happened to Egwene, had she not gotten separated from Nynaeve so early, but instead it's a mix of Moiraine's independant streak and Siuan's traditionalist and political-minded views that dominates in her, with a remaining streak of TR practical thinking.
An important thing is that the Tower doesn't recruit much. They let women come to the Tower to be tested. It goes without saying that most of these women who decide to go get tested isn't fundamentally opposed to the the ways and worldview of Tar Valon. They wish to join that organization. All of them but "wilders", who have no choice and are found and trained by the Tower. That's why the rest of the Tower dislikes wilders so much. Unlike them, they never dreamed of joining the Tower, this was pushed on them, and many don't have the right frame of mind to think the way the other AS do. This is what happens with Nynaeve. She didn't come admiring the WT, she came hating it and seeing flaws upon flaws in sisters like Moiraine. Nynaeve has a very personal vision of what AS should be that she developped around how she sees herself and how she reconcile her personality with becoming a sister. Unlike most she never got the years of training to "reshape" her views. Egwene is more like a sponge - her motto could be "When in Rome, act like the Romans". She did that everywhere she went, though she's becoming more and more critical as she wizen up, and is more open now to questionning her worldviews. Elayne is also more conservative, though her views on AS got influenced a lot by Nynaeve's, and by her role as Queen (she now tends to see the benefits of channellers with the eyes of a Queen rather than an AS. She lost track that the WT must remain neutral and can't favour a nation over the others - she'll no doubt be reminded of this by Egwene soon). The same might have happened to Egwene, had she not gotten separated from Nynaeve so early, but instead it's a mix of Moiraine's independant streak and Siuan's traditionalist and political-minded views that dominates in her, with a remaining streak of TR practical thinking.
Nynaeve's stupidity and the test for Aes Sedai
07/12/2010 08:27:05 PM
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Way to totally misunderstand the chapter
07/12/2010 09:39:08 PM
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I second this
07/12/2010 10:10:24 PM
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your bold is stuck. *NM*
07/12/2010 10:21:22 PM
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On the whole, the test is innappropriate IMO
07/12/2010 09:40:08 PM
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nice post
08/12/2010 09:20:02 AM
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Isn't it implied
08/12/2010 02:16:58 PM
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no they were students together
08/12/2010 05:33:17 PM
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No, Lanfear was older than Lews
08/12/2010 07:21:45 PM
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Where on earth did you get that from?
08/12/2010 08:41:16 PM
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Re: Where on earth did you get that from?
09/12/2010 10:27:20 AM
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Re: Where on earth did you get that from?
09/12/2010 03:56:32 PM
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I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time
09/12/2010 04:34:23 PM
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Re: I always got the impression that they were together for quiet some time
09/12/2010 05:43:40 PM
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I think skill with Saidar is easy enough to judge as it's a simple matter to see the skill
08/12/2010 05:37:27 PM
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I think the greens should have been on Nynaeve's side as well
08/12/2010 06:18:16 PM
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Problem is they are Aes Sedai and thus more likley to be political rather than rational! *NM*
08/12/2010 08:52:00 PM
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Re: nice post
09/12/2010 01:23:50 PM
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On the matter of strength
09/12/2010 08:51:36 PM
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Strength was "prized" in the AoL ... but lack of strength was not a negative
12/12/2010 01:41:08 AM
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Yes. How dare she not conform with every other fucking mindless stupid WT Aes Sedai *NM*
07/12/2010 11:36:52 PM
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Status is not an end in itself. *NM*
07/12/2010 11:52:37 PM
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They're not really stupid...
08/12/2010 01:00:20 AM
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Not saying they are. It's just that most AS that we've come across
08/12/2010 02:20:05 AM
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They're constantly outsmarted by a teenage girl that has spent most of her life in a damn farm.
08/12/2010 10:32:50 AM
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Bah...
09/12/2010 10:56:24 AM
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I did not say all Aes Sedai are stupid, I said all WT Aes Sedai are stupid.
10/12/2010 09:19:52 AM
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You are not only wrong in your call,
08/12/2010 04:39:44 AM
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Re: You are not only wrong in your call,
08/12/2010 09:13:37 AM
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if that is the purpose of the test
08/12/2010 01:34:45 PM
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minor disagreement
08/12/2010 05:27:51 PM
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Yes, but you can be not-panicked and not calm of body
08/12/2010 06:38:56 PM
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not really the same thing as what the AS are getting at though
08/12/2010 09:02:05 PM
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that's retarded, imo
09/12/2010 12:21:27 AM
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Oh it's totally stupid!
09/12/2010 04:37:14 PM
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No I know why she took the job. I just don't understand why she got it
09/12/2010 04:52:34 PM
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I think Elaida just smarmed up at the right time, Morgase was very young then
09/12/2010 05:52:29 PM
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Oh. Well, I'm sorry then.
08/12/2010 06:48:50 PM
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I think it has already been established that the purpose of the test is to ensure that
08/12/2010 09:59:18 PM
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Yeah, but how does that work?
08/12/2010 10:24:35 PM
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Somewhere in the sub-conscious they know what they're doing is important to them.
09/12/2010 12:20:47 AM
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Even so, it wouldn't work.
09/12/2010 03:32:55 AM
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I think if this thread has established anything it's that the test is severely flawed. *NM*
09/12/2010 09:24:48 PM
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Another headless chicken example.
09/12/2010 12:30:02 AM
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the headless chicken is just such a lovely metaphor for panic
*NM*
09/12/2010 04:48:11 AM
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Re: Oh. Well, I'm sorry then.
09/12/2010 12:07:15 PM
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You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right"
09/12/2010 02:59:50 AM
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Re: You seem to have no grasp of the difference between "politic" and "right"
09/12/2010 09:26:21 AM
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That's not the dilema
09/12/2010 05:23:19 PM
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One of those few times where I completely agree with Cannoli. Give over Sidious. You're wrong.
09/12/2010 09:55:20 PM
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That's not what it's really about
10/12/2010 05:44:12 AM
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This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
09/12/2010 03:46:31 AM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
09/12/2010 09:40:09 AM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
09/12/2010 02:04:02 PM
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Re: This test, even by its usual abysmal standards, was idiotic. It bordered on being evil.
09/12/2010 11:26:40 AM
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One of those few times where I completely agree with fionwe1987. Give over Sidious. You're wrong.
10/12/2010 03:53:25 PM
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