The problem with the scenario as far as Nynaeve went was the presmuption of her inferiority because she did not take the test, but there is no reason she should have been able to tell them where to shove their Oath Rod. She was already Aes Sedai.
Unfortunately while this is technically true, it is also irrelevant. She might have been Aes Sedai as far as the law was concerned, but if the other Aes Sedai don't accept her as such, the law doesn't matter. Call it compromise or realpolitik, but Nynaeve had to swear the Oaths, unless she wanted to spend years being treated worse than Daigan.
And I don't meant this as a defence of the Oaths - I agree that they're mostly useless, certainly not worth the cost of half a lifetime.
The status of an Aes Sedai once conferred is a general acceptance by the White Tower, and NOT a gift to be handed out or taken away by the Amyrlin Seat, even if she has final approval over the granting of that status. As an issue of the Tower, it can, or should, only be issued or revoked by the law of the Tower, and not any particular individual's whim.
Do you mean that Egwene had no business raising she, Elayne, Theodrin and Faolain in the first place? If so I don't disagree - she did it out of political necessity, but it set a disturbing precedent. I'm not convinced it was even legal - can an Amyrlin's decree contradict established law? - in which case the four of them were never Aes Sedai at all. On the other hand, when the White Tower was first being formed out of the many groups then that called themselves Aes Sedai, they tended to absorb their competitors, where they could. Perhaps, in changing how a woman could become Aes Sedai, Egwene was trying to pave the way for bringing Wise Ones and Windfinders and the rest into the Tower.
Nynaeve should not have been made to swear the Oaths
07/12/2010 03:12:00 PM
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*shrugs* ... the oaths are lame and so full of holes the only value they bring is
07/12/2010 03:26:21 PM
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I wonder what would have happened if she refused and left the tower entirely.
07/12/2010 03:30:58 PM
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I doubt they would have stopped her ... but there was no real reason for her to refuse the
07/12/2010 03:34:20 PM
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no there wasn't a real reason for her to refuse. It'd still be interesting if she did *NM*
07/12/2010 03:37:45 PM
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would have made for an interesting spin on the plot
07/12/2010 05:37:31 PM
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How is she not a lead?
07/12/2010 06:25:45 PM
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She has never really had her own unique plot line
07/12/2010 06:34:40 PM
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I'm going to have to disagree with you on that
07/12/2010 07:46:08 PM
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Nothing to really argue here except perspective ... to each their own *NM*
07/12/2010 10:26:04 PM
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That would have been good - I think she was probably the only woman with such an opportunity
07/12/2010 10:59:50 PM
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Personally, I think it would have been a brillaint twist if Nyneave didn't become Aes Sedai *NM*
08/12/2010 12:02:05 AM
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Re: *shrugs* ... the oaths are lame and so full of holes the only value they bring is
07/12/2010 10:49:12 PM
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she shouldn't have, although I think they should trash the oaths in general
07/12/2010 03:29:21 PM
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Especially since Egwene herself didn't really think it necessary for herself to take the tests
07/12/2010 03:43:18 PM
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well it looks like such a coalition is part of the plan
07/12/2010 03:47:03 PM
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I meant one that would destroy the White Tower
07/12/2010 03:53:35 PM
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I agree with you. Hopefully Post LB there will be a new structure to the AS organization
07/12/2010 05:34:01 PM
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She was always going to have to swear the Oaths
07/12/2010 04:42:59 PM
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Brace yourselves, everybody...
08/12/2010 02:56:43 PM
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The only problem with that scenario was that Nynaeve had stuff to do, and could not as Accepted
09/12/2010 01:09:45 AM
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And what? To miss all the awesomeness she had before/during/after the test?
07/12/2010 06:27:23 PM
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I agree about the test, kind of. The Oaths was going too far.
07/12/2010 07:02:43 PM
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Re: I agree about the test, kind of. The Oaths was going too far.
16/12/2010 10:40:39 AM
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It's supposed to be a required part of being Aes Sedai.
08/12/2010 08:52:34 AM
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On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths.
14/12/2010 04:53:28 AM
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Re: On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths.
14/12/2010 11:53:43 AM
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Passing your scars on
14/12/2010 07:07:43 PM
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They believe Oaths necessary, thus an Aes Sedai refusing sets herself apart from and above the rest.
16/12/2010 02:26:45 PM
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So?
15/12/2010 11:40:32 AM
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From the standpoint of actually changing Tower rules and traditions I agree with you.
16/12/2010 02:13:44 PM
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