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what do you mean? these powers have been manifesting for a while! You need to read more closely darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 05/12/2010 03:15:21 PM
If you didn't get Rand's transformation, you're not the intended audience...

IMO, of course.

I'm supposed to believe that 'love' conquered his insanity, removed (or merged) LTT from his mind forever, got rid of the crippling sickness he had every time he seized Saidin, and also gave him 'Light' powers?

PUH LEEZ.

Are you interested in buying a bridge I have for sale?

There has been NO explanation as to why Rand believing in love cured ALL the above problems, NO EXPLANATION. Just buy this bullshit and like it.

Love did not conquer anything or cure his insanity or his sickness etc.. Love was merely the catalyst for a self realization that allowed Rand to access his full potential as the Dragon Reborn. He was having a crisis of faith that kept him limited to simple human abilities. Rand is a Messianic figure and in a way was Reborn on Dragonmount for a 3rd time, this time his power is in his own "faith" rather than the more mundane OP strength.

Once he embraced the truth of being the DR he had access to a wide variety of, now uncorrupted, abilities. Note how he's now vastly stronger in the Power than anyone else rather than being on par with the strongest men. He seems to have some kind of direct control over his ta'veren effect and he is "one with the earth" in truth now, healing the corruption. I believe the same ability that drives Dark Friends insane is what is holding the madness at bay.


Everything you are saying is YOUR OWN extrapolation of the events that occured. This does NOT mean you are right. You are interpreting the events in a way that to you makes sense. However the truth is there is no logical reason from the rules we've seen up till now that should give Rand 'Light Powers'. No reason why his sickness of seizing Saidin disappeared and no reason LTT should have gone away. We dont even know if they merged, or LTT is in Rand's mind 100% or LTT is gone or what!


The only really new "power" here was Rand finding enlightenment and thus being able to accept his role as Dragon. Before his realization he was already showing these powers in corrupted form (such as all the food in AD spoiling) now those corrupting elements have been removed and Rand is accessing the powers of the Dragon.

The wounds in his side have not "magically" vanished. LTT is not gone, but he has ceased to be a second personality inside of and competing with Rand, now LTT exists as a set of memories similar to what Birgitte experiences. Rand says so himself in the book ... he remembers being LTT and living for 400 years, but that he was still Rand al'Thor. We've been expecting this "integration" for several books so it should not be a surprise.

IMO, the sickness vanishing and the DF being unable to look upon him are part of the "glowing lining" Nynaeve discovered in Rand's mind. That lining removed the various affects the taint and Ishamael had placed on his mind over time.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
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Pointless characters and deaths in WoT Reishi - 04/12/2010 05:49:01 AM 2171 Views
Re: Pointless characters and deaths in WoT malekithe - 04/12/2010 06:15:12 AM 1088 Views
Other pointless characters malekithe - 04/12/2010 06:26:50 AM 1362 Views
why would you read the series and visit fan sites if you hate it all that much? *NM* Nargs - 04/12/2010 06:38:47 AM 493 Views
Re: why would you read the series and visit fan sites if you hate it all that much? malekithe - 04/12/2010 06:41:23 AM 1032 Views
If you didn't get Rand's transformation, you're not the intended audience... Lord Haart - 04/12/2010 06:58:20 AM 1159 Views
OFF TOPIC: Lord Haart, are you a HOMM fan? *NM* Nargs - 04/12/2010 07:06:41 AM 617 Views
Yep! Ever since (the original) King's Bounty. *NM* Lord Haart - 05/12/2010 01:38:20 PM 455 Views
Oh, love of course. malekithe - 04/12/2010 07:13:10 AM 1032 Views
Yeah, while you're busy not believing that, you should believe in things like the One Power too. Lord Haart - 04/12/2010 10:28:46 AM 970 Views
Rand's Magical Transformation malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:50:29 AM 913 Views
Re: Rand's Magical Transformation Lord Haart - 05/12/2010 12:06:22 PM 849 Views
Re: Oh, love of course. aven - 04/12/2010 01:59:13 PM 927 Views
Re: Oh, love of course. malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:51:50 AM 877 Views
You've completely missed the point darius_sedai - 04/12/2010 02:03:06 PM 915 Views
You've completely missed the point! malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:54:47 AM 864 Views
what do you mean? these powers have been manifesting for a while! You need to read more closely darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 03:15:21 PM 964 Views
You're right, why would love ever be the Base of Goodness??? LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 08:59:27 AM 894 Views
You're proving my point actually malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 808 Views
? at what point was this series not supposed to be stereotypical? LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:36:06 AM 946 Views
Well... malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:42:04 AM 1032 Views
uhm, we do? LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:48:32 AM 859 Views
Not in Rand malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:55:02 AM 825 Views
channeling isn't far from stereotypical LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 10:10:20 AM 1088 Views
So why do you keep reading? malekithe - 05/12/2010 10:17:49 AM 1048 Views
far from it. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 10:30:02 AM 846 Views
I like the love storyline alanna aes sedai - 06/12/2010 01:38:25 AM 781 Views
I think he does it to torture me. *NM* Deadsy - 04/12/2010 09:48:49 AM 509 Views
Re: I think he does it to torture me. malekithe - 05/12/2010 08:55:06 AM 834 Views
Again, why are you on this board or even reading this series? Ashaman_Luc - 04/12/2010 02:30:22 PM 1019 Views
Uh excuse me. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:05:27 AM 933 Views
since you are so very unhappy, I fail to see why you continue to read the books LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:09:36 AM 772 Views
Don't twist things to suit yourself malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:38:42 AM 871 Views
I would be unhappy with that ending because the Creator has never worked directly. LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 09:44:17 AM 917 Views
I'd say there's been some unusualness. malekithe - 05/12/2010 09:52:22 AM 865 Views
If Rand was one of the supporting heroes, maybe. But he's the "messiah" character LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 10:15:42 AM 844 Views
Actually, it's got zilch to do with "good" or "evil". Lord Haart - 05/12/2010 01:37:49 PM 975 Views
actually, we don't know how it is done and I like my theory just fine, thank you LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 05:48:19 PM 745 Views
We haven't had a Rand POV, so I don't think you can say for certain that it's random. Lord Haart - 06/12/2010 03:16:43 AM 963 Views
I don't think I can either. I'm not trying to say it's certain. LadyLorraine - 06/12/2010 06:17:04 AM 854 Views
I really like Rand post-epiphany (or BuddhaRand as I call him) RugbyPlayingAshaman - 07/12/2010 04:05:10 PM 769 Views
BuddhaRand ^_^ LadyLorraine - 07/12/2010 04:16:26 PM 833 Views
And right down the page is "Easy life of lightside heroes" moratcorlm - 04/12/2010 10:43:55 AM 958 Views
Yep, can't please everyone. Lord Haart - 05/12/2010 01:40:19 PM 902 Views
Well, two things BlackAdder - 06/12/2010 05:25:27 AM 1159 Views
Re: Well, two things *NM* Lord Haart - 06/12/2010 09:01:25 AM 521 Views
Why are these deaths a problem? ajfurst - 04/12/2010 11:34:31 PM 861 Views
Re: Pointless characters and deaths in WoT Lo'oris - 05/12/2010 01:56:53 PM 840 Views
Re: Pointless characters and deaths in WoT Lord Haart - 06/12/2010 05:11:19 AM 1078 Views
BINGO *NM* HyogaRott - 06/12/2010 03:59:46 PM 497 Views
It's rather simple. Great Lord of Chaos - 05/12/2010 02:50:10 PM 1108 Views
Don't forget Aram ßelals Girl - 07/12/2010 07:42:06 PM 817 Views
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