Actually I think Nynaeve's comment is rather silly unless she had in fact linked with or been told
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 04/12/2010 02:42:27 PM
TOM (Use a Pebble) - Naeff nodded. The two of them strode forward, creating wind. They shattered buildings, causing them to burst and fall. Naeff was far more skilled at the process than she, but Nynaeve was stronger in the One Power. Together, they swept the crumbling buildings, stones and husks before them in a dust storm.
Naeff is strong in Air, which is rare for a man and very useful because it eliminates an important confounder. What can be deduced from this statement...
1. Nynaeve has no problem directly comparing herself to a man. Considering Nynaeve is not keen on linking with men, it stands to reason that she has no done so with Naeff. She has probably reached her opinion by watching what he's done with the Power and measuring his effective strength. Therefore, Nynaeve has no problem comparing males and females, which means that saidin/saidar aren't so different that comparisons are stupid. The method is different, but the act is probably similar.
2. Strength can be used to match skill. I've had a question in my head for years as to whether Nynaeve could use her extra strength to balance Egwene's strength in Earth. It seems like she CAN, which is reassuring to know. It has a lot of implications (like the fact that you can use an angreal to do something you couldn't otherwise do due to lack of strength in a flow).
3. Nynaeve is probably not very strong in Air if Naeff can exceed her ability.
Thoughts?
directly that she can draw more Power than Naeff.
1. She has absolutely no idea how much of the Power Naeff was drawing at the time to create his wind. She simply knows they are both doing about an equal amount of the work. The author is telling us directly with that statement that Nynaeve is stronger than this man, something I don't think RJ would have ever done so directly.
2. Nynaeve has been shown time and again to have great strength in Air and Water, corner stones to both Healing and Listening to the Wind. So it's an even more odd comparison, Naeff must be very strong in Air indeed!
3. Nynaeve has also seen a distinct increase in skill level (as has Egwene for that matter) in the last couple of books. I attribute that to Cadsuane who encouraged Nynaeve to learn the 100 Weaves. Nynaeve has been rather lazy in anything outside of Healing for most of the series, but now she suddenly seems to be showing more work ethic.
4. Additional Strength likely can increase basic effects ... look what Nynaeve did in her testing with some of the 100 Weaves! She increased the amount of Power and used at least one of them as a weapon. I'm certain that Nynaeve could create as big an earthquake as Egwene, I doubt however, that Nynaeve could match Egwene's ability to make Cuendillar or sense metals or any of the other "affinity" related skills that come with being strong in Earth.
5. As with most things I tend to think about this whole thread in the reverse to you ... rather than thinking being strong is the important thing here I immediately saw this as a weaker channeler's skill allowed them to equal the stronger channelers affect. Which goes right back to the thought that someone like Egwene could potentially match up to a Forsaken level individual if the skill differential was enough. Egwene herself seems to believe she could have faced Mesaana and defeated her.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
Nice strength/skill comparison that settles a lot of things
25/11/2010 04:55:16 PM
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Re: Nice strength/skill comparison that settles a lot of things
25/11/2010 05:55:06 PM
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Re: Nice strength/skill comparison that settles a lot of things
26/11/2010 12:10:57 AM
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I thought this particularly absurd because
26/11/2010 03:19:41 AM
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Re: I thought this particularly absurd because
01/12/2010 09:18:09 PM
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Indeed ... Nynaeve is basically being very inefficient with her Power
04/12/2010 02:50:13 PM
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Yes...
25/11/2010 06:23:10 PM
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Yep, She can pick up new weaves almost instantly. ie the 100 weave lessons *NM*
26/11/2010 01:07:17 AM
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Re: Yep, She can pick up new weaves almost instantly. ie the 100 weave lessons
27/11/2010 07:12:02 AM
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It was never really clarified if she really Listened to the Wind or to ripples in mental energy
02/12/2010 11:29:05 PM
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The only issue is one I've pondered before: your strength defines your skills and sex, capabilities
02/12/2010 11:27:23 PM
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Actually I think Nynaeve's comment is rather silly unless she had in fact linked with or been told
04/12/2010 02:42:27 PM
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another example using Naeff
04/12/2010 07:26:58 PM
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Cadsuane is using an angreal *NM*
04/12/2010 08:39:28 PM
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Re: Cadsuane is using an angreal
04/12/2010 09:39:35 PM
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And she would take it into the equation
05/12/2010 06:09:48 AM
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Cadsuane doesn't advertise what her ornaments are, only a handful of people know what they do
05/12/2010 02:49:30 PM
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Cadsuane doesn't advertise what her ornaments are, only a handful of people know what they do
05/12/2010 02:58:37 PM
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