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I think that she meant that comment as more for the "hero" version Apsalar Shadowdancer Send a noteboard - 03/12/2010 10:57:38 AM
and even our point of view is not an accurate depiction. The only reference we have to permanent death in T'A'R' is from the wolves. Wolves=/=humans, and, as DomA has stated above, they may be wrong as well.


Brigitte (and her mate?) say that if they die there it's permanent for them as well.


not that the soul would never be reborn, just that it would sever her connection to the horn and her soul would return to the "normal" human soul pool. From a hero of the horn's perspective that would be a "permanent" death because they would no longer be re-spun as the same hero. I don't think she meant, or would even be aware, that her death in tar would actually destroy her soul.
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Egwene and the WIse Ones don't know the most basic thing about Teleranriod guttering flame - 02/12/2010 10:43:16 PM 2024 Views
IIRC Nicola was killed by a Black Ajah Sister and Egwene had tried to save her. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/12/2010 10:52:01 PM 1218 Views
Yes, I meant allowing her near the battle in the first place guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:28:45 AM 826 Views
And who would enforce those rules? j-whitt987 - 03/12/2010 12:42:33 PM 952 Views
Also, I'm not sure how you could expect the Wise Ones to know that. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/12/2010 02:51:43 PM 832 Views
How do you figure? Fanatic-Templar - 02/12/2010 10:55:15 PM 1025 Views
Re: How do you figure? malekithe - 02/12/2010 11:06:29 PM 1110 Views
may, being the operative word. LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 11:12:49 PM 943 Views
except for the part of the soul that stays in the sleeping body, like they've explained many times. *NM* nigelgoboom - 02/12/2010 11:16:43 PM 442 Views
mmm fair point. maybe if you were there "too strongly"? LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 11:18:50 PM 938 Views
right. but i dont think 'too strongly' ever means completely. maybe in the flesh or something *NM* nigelgoboom - 03/12/2010 01:24:38 AM 470 Views
This doesn't make a lot of sense guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:37:02 AM 881 Views
They also told Perrin that about... j-whitt987 - 03/12/2010 12:55:57 AM 1027 Views
yes, that is another confounding factor LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:14:35 AM 885 Views
Oh, I see. Fanatic-Templar - 02/12/2010 11:45:37 PM 991 Views
Re: Oh, I see. DomA - 03/12/2010 02:29:30 AM 991 Views
Re: Oh, I see. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 02:45:59 AM 920 Views
He isn't a wolfbrother Timthetrolloc - 03/12/2010 05:43:06 AM 962 Views
Maybe he hadn't discovered it yet. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 06:21:22 AM 859 Views
He'd be a shadowbrother-brother guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:51:59 AM 800 Views
You raise an interesting possibility guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:44:18 AM 1051 Views
Wolfbrothers are going to be part of the next age. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 07:05:30 AM 817 Views
I thought they were just a transitional thing guttering flame - 03/12/2010 07:13:17 AM 906 Views
I doubt it, that Age is ours. Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 09:33:03 PM 808 Views
Uhm, TOTALLY. LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 10:00:01 PM 777 Views
GASP! *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 06:59:09 AM 516 Views
I know RJ said something guttering flame - 04/12/2010 06:15:51 AM 792 Views
Re: I know RJ said something Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 07:05:50 AM 880 Views
So... guttering flame - 04/12/2010 07:24:07 AM 900 Views
Re: So... Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 10:12:45 AM 860 Views
Of course... DomA - 05/12/2010 08:21:05 PM 955 Views
If the first age is the Technological / Scientific Age guttering flame - 06/12/2010 06:33:18 AM 920 Views
I don't see why they would have to be unique themes. LadyLorraine - 06/12/2010 07:04:08 AM 860 Views
I don't even know why they're supposed to be mutually exclusive. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/12/2010 07:37:35 AM 441 Views
Re: I don't see why they would have to be unique themes. guttering flame - 06/12/2010 08:14:15 AM 841 Views
uhm, duh, stonehedge. LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:11:44 PM 811 Views
No, because Heroes and Wolves are both different from run of the mill humans LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:19:05 AM 926 Views
That's far from "the most basic" thing and it is entirely excusable that they do not know it. LadyLorraine - 02/12/2010 11:17:46 PM 999 Views
Re: That's far from "the most basic" thing and it is entirely excusable that they do not know it. DomA - 03/12/2010 02:42:39 AM 945 Views
It could be extrapolated from the fact that it's souls that inhabit it guttering flame - 03/12/2010 06:54:40 AM 864 Views
You're caving to bias from being outside the story with more information than any single character. LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:13:12 AM 879 Views
Don't forget the Heroes guttering flame - 03/12/2010 09:34:43 AM 762 Views
I think that she meant that comment as more for the "hero" version Apsalar Shadowdancer - 03/12/2010 10:57:38 AM 829 Views
Maybe this should be a question for Sanderson? guttering flame - 03/12/2010 11:43:54 AM 837 Views
that's only because you're stubbornly holding to yours, despite everyone indicating its errors *NM* LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 05:29:15 PM 509 Views
Obviously my tenacity indicates that I have a worthy point guttering flame - 03/12/2010 07:06:18 PM 653 Views
Perrin doesn't count since his information is from Hopper LadyLorraine - 03/12/2010 09:58:01 PM 854 Views
So it's my evidence against your non-evidence? guttering flame - 04/12/2010 06:05:41 AM 916 Views
why are you assuming that all souls are the same? LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:18:10 PM 1120 Views
1. You're wrong. 2. Even if you're right, how would they know? beetnemesis - 03/12/2010 05:28:33 AM 1070 Views
Maybe, but I bet they can spell it. Joel - 03/12/2010 05:43:28 AM 912 Views
Incidentally, wouldn't that mean it is safer to go to Tel'aran'rhiod in the flesh? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 03/12/2010 09:35:21 PM 431 Views
I'm more inclined to believe that being killed in the flesh in TAR darius_sedai - 04/12/2010 07:35:15 PM 770 Views
Where does that reasoning begin? Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 07:53:42 PM 1341 Views
Perhaps it's more of a matter that the "usual route" may be altered? LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 10:20:51 PM 748 Views
But human souls don't go to Tel'aran'rhiod, from what we know. Fanatic-Templar - 04/12/2010 11:19:53 PM 767 Views
maybe it does? LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 12:18:05 AM 1101 Views
So do we have any reason to believe this is the case? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 05/12/2010 02:48:48 AM 423 Views
I don't think so. It's not really something that's discussed LadyLorraine - 05/12/2010 03:19:37 AM 632 Views
I'm pondering too darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 03:04:10 PM 929 Views
Not @ all - if humans regularly go to TAR after they die, we'd have seen it already. Heroes would newyorkersedai - 04/12/2010 01:28:45 AM 950 Views
that would have been decidedly clever. *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/12/2010 07:18:52 PM 385 Views
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