Active Users:541 Time:05/01/2026 07:32:33 PM
I'm not really sure if or why any reader would need to suspend disbelief to enjoy WoT RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 30/11/2010 10:31:49 PM
Personally, I find many of the themes and the plot points of WoT to be unbelievable, but I can enjoy the series because it wasn't meant to be "realistic" or "believable". It is meant to be fun.

Once I got over my need for this story to have a deeper meaning beyond engaging my imagination, I started to enjoy it for what it is. I feel that there are works of fiction, such as "War and Peace" that try to comment or reveal something about the human condition. While "Wheel of Time" certainly has themes, they apply only as far as the bounds of this fantasy series.

The fact that we have characters whom unlikely events occur around to the extent that they seem uberpowerful and lucky (t'a'veren) in the story stretches belief enough to make suspending your disbelief a non-issue. You aren't supposed to 'believe' these characters issues are real. IMHO you are supposed to have fun with the ride getting from Point A to Point B.
"Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise will sooner or later have to find time for illness."
Reply to message
Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... - 28/11/2010 03:38:14 PM 2929 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... - 28/11/2010 04:05:48 PM 1574 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... - 29/11/2010 12:27:27 AM 1484 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... - 29/11/2010 12:36:49 AM 1462 Views
Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... - 29/11/2010 01:59:18 AM 1499 Views
Yes, she still lets herself be ruled by her desire to control everything - 29/11/2010 02:39:34 AM 1480 Views
I vote it has come to pass - 29/11/2010 02:48:26 AM 1329 Views
*facepalm* - good point, not sure how I missed that. *NM* - 29/11/2010 03:12:00 AM 791 Views
Re: I vote it has come to pass - 29/11/2010 09:42:51 AM 1337 Views
Prophecy never said she would be angry at the time, - 29/11/2010 11:36:53 AM 1391 Views
lol true, gg *NM* - 29/11/2010 11:52:54 AM 779 Views
Aviendha's vision doesn't automatically mean the Light will win - 28/11/2010 05:32:56 PM 1743 Views
She doesn't even see that. The arches just show a possibility. - 29/11/2010 07:12:05 PM 1294 Views
Indeed - 28/11/2010 06:16:41 PM 1380 Views
am i the only one who acknowledges that it's a jerk deal for jerks - 28/11/2010 08:00:23 PM 1615 Views
i think most people feel that way - 29/11/2010 09:06:44 AM 1427 Views
I agree with you - 05/12/2010 05:13:38 PM 1206 Views
Re: am i the only one who acknowledges that it's a jerk deal for jerks - 29/11/2010 06:40:18 PM 1335 Views
I'm sure that all the men Ituralde lost would agree with you about it being a breeze -_- - 29/11/2010 12:32:56 AM 1336 Views
Byar was compulsed - 29/11/2010 12:46:01 AM 1661 Views
I agree that he was part of Graendal's plan, but - 29/11/2010 02:16:45 AM 1318 Views
Re: I agree that he was part of Graendal's plan, but - 29/11/2010 09:44:05 AM 1279 Views
Re: Byar was compulsed - 29/11/2010 12:54:38 PM 1610 Views
Re: Byar was compulsed - 29/11/2010 12:59:31 PM 1335 Views
Re: Byar was compulsed - 29/11/2010 01:10:18 PM 1419 Views
He disbelieves in the Heroes - 29/11/2010 03:33:27 PM 1290 Views
I think that's his mind deceiving itself - 29/11/2010 07:19:05 PM 1361 Views
I didn't say he was necessarily Compulsed - 30/11/2010 07:40:51 AM 1271 Views
Do we have his reaction to the Heroes themselves? - 30/11/2010 11:55:42 AM 1364 Views
Re: Do we have his reaction to the Heroes themselves? - 30/11/2010 12:05:44 PM 1225 Views
he makes no mention of the Heroes. - 30/11/2010 10:42:13 PM 1346 Views
They did get another thing right - 29/11/2010 12:40:52 AM 1347 Views
Not Mat's fault, really - Verin didn't rehash her opinion of him. - 29/11/2010 02:18:17 AM 1304 Views
It's the WOT Red Shirt syndrome - 29/11/2010 04:29:12 AM 1435 Views
I don't want everyone to win and end up happily ever after though. - 29/11/2010 04:33:06 AM 1318 Views
The disney ending is not realistic - or at least not as believable - 29/11/2010 04:41:04 AM 1461 Views
You, good sir, are - 30/11/2010 06:53:49 PM 1257 Views
I also think Lan will be saved right before the end. - 29/11/2010 06:50:34 PM 1233 Views
Re: I also think Lan will be saved right before the end. - 30/11/2010 01:47:27 AM 1369 Views
It's a well told story with fun characters overall, but it's definitely not "War & Peace" - 29/11/2010 06:33:12 PM 1423 Views
+1 *NM* - 29/11/2010 07:18:13 PM 710 Views
it is. I love it anyways, though - 29/11/2010 07:23:24 PM 1236 Views
War and Peace was very thematic - 30/11/2010 05:00:30 AM 1682 Views
Doublethink for the win! *NM* - 30/11/2010 07:35:20 AM 746 Views
Re: War and Peace was very thematic - 30/11/2010 09:35:50 AM 1300 Views
I'm not really sure if or why any reader would need to suspend disbelief to enjoy WoT - 30/11/2010 10:31:49 PM 1294 Views
Please tell me what drugs you're on - 01/12/2010 04:04:39 AM 1413 Views
It's called 'reality' - I agree with LadyLorraine & Moratcorlm - 01/12/2010 07:57:35 PM 1304 Views
You are absolutely wrong. - 02/12/2010 04:53:52 AM 1279 Views
You are incorrect - you should read the definition you reference before posting it. - 02/12/2010 04:19:16 PM 1419 Views
No, I read the ENTIRE article, unlike you. You have to scroll down a bit. - 02/12/2010 05:47:13 PM 1203 Views
No, you need to read and comprehend. That was a THEORY. - 02/12/2010 07:11:01 PM 1124 Views
It's really very simple. - 04/12/2010 12:31:16 AM 1449 Views
mk, I think I understand more what you meant now after reading this exchange - 05/12/2010 05:42:47 AM 1310 Views
I still don't agree; sorry. I don't think this theory applies to everyone. - 06/12/2010 05:30:41 PM 1429 Views
No, those are disbeliefs that you must suspend. - 01/12/2010 08:18:25 PM 1199 Views
You have to feel the characters are somehow believable to empathize with them. - 02/12/2010 01:05:29 AM 1277 Views
I don't see how WoT's writing (Before, or now) prevents that - 02/12/2010 04:12:54 AM 1112 Views
I'm not arguing that it necessarily does for everyone, just that YOU HAVE TO SUSPEND DISBELIEF - 02/12/2010 04:48:51 AM 1303 Views
That's a load of crap... - 02/12/2010 06:03:13 AM 1446 Views
Sure - 01/12/2010 01:30:03 AM 1245 Views
Black Tower - 30/11/2010 01:50:29 AM 1228 Views
Re: Black Tower - 30/11/2010 01:57:48 AM 1366 Views
I agree with everything. - 30/11/2010 01:37:11 PM 1553 Views
Hopper's death... oh god... - 01/12/2010 01:00:12 AM 1499 Views
while i miss hopper - 02/12/2010 04:19:28 AM 1241 Views
Re: while i miss hopper - 02/12/2010 05:30:52 PM 1374 Views
Hopper wasn't that important, either, though. - 03/12/2010 02:32:10 PM 1171 Views
Re: Hopper wasn't that important, either, though. - 03/12/2010 03:10:54 PM 1211 Views
It would be awesome if it were, though. - 03/12/2010 04:41:42 PM 1351 Views
Re: It would be awesome if it were, though. - 04/12/2010 09:54:09 PM 1314 Views
- 05/12/2010 07:07:44 AM 1179 Views

Reply to Message