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I'm not really sure if or why any reader would need to suspend disbelief to enjoy WoT RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 30/11/2010 10:31:49 PM
Personally, I find many of the themes and the plot points of WoT to be unbelievable, but I can enjoy the series because it wasn't meant to be "realistic" or "believable". It is meant to be fun.

Once I got over my need for this story to have a deeper meaning beyond engaging my imagination, I started to enjoy it for what it is. I feel that there are works of fiction, such as "War and Peace" that try to comment or reveal something about the human condition. While "Wheel of Time" certainly has themes, they apply only as far as the bounds of this fantasy series.

The fact that we have characters whom unlikely events occur around to the extent that they seem uberpowerful and lucky (t'a'veren) in the story stretches belief enough to make suspending your disbelief a non-issue. You aren't supposed to 'believe' these characters issues are real. IMHO you are supposed to have fun with the ride getting from Point A to Point B.
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Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... - 28/11/2010 03:38:14 PM 2793 Views
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Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot... - 29/11/2010 01:59:18 AM 1375 Views
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I vote it has come to pass - 29/11/2010 02:48:26 AM 1200 Views
*facepalm* - good point, not sure how I missed that. *NM* - 29/11/2010 03:12:00 AM 732 Views
Re: I vote it has come to pass - 29/11/2010 09:42:51 AM 1199 Views
Prophecy never said she would be angry at the time, - 29/11/2010 11:36:53 AM 1268 Views
lol true, gg *NM* - 29/11/2010 11:52:54 AM 707 Views
Aviendha's vision doesn't automatically mean the Light will win - 28/11/2010 05:32:56 PM 1618 Views
She doesn't even see that. The arches just show a possibility. - 29/11/2010 07:12:05 PM 1151 Views
Indeed - 28/11/2010 06:16:41 PM 1269 Views
am i the only one who acknowledges that it's a jerk deal for jerks - 28/11/2010 08:00:23 PM 1476 Views
i think most people feel that way - 29/11/2010 09:06:44 AM 1301 Views
I agree with you - 05/12/2010 05:13:38 PM 1096 Views
Re: am i the only one who acknowledges that it's a jerk deal for jerks - 29/11/2010 06:40:18 PM 1236 Views
I'm sure that all the men Ituralde lost would agree with you about it being a breeze -_- - 29/11/2010 12:32:56 AM 1229 Views
Byar was compulsed - 29/11/2010 12:46:01 AM 1551 Views
I agree that he was part of Graendal's plan, but - 29/11/2010 02:16:45 AM 1182 Views
Re: I agree that he was part of Graendal's plan, but - 29/11/2010 09:44:05 AM 1157 Views
Re: Byar was compulsed - 29/11/2010 12:54:38 PM 1494 Views
Re: Byar was compulsed - 29/11/2010 12:59:31 PM 1212 Views
Re: Byar was compulsed - 29/11/2010 01:10:18 PM 1236 Views
He disbelieves in the Heroes - 29/11/2010 03:33:27 PM 1183 Views
I think that's his mind deceiving itself - 29/11/2010 07:19:05 PM 1240 Views
I didn't say he was necessarily Compulsed - 30/11/2010 07:40:51 AM 1146 Views
Do we have his reaction to the Heroes themselves? - 30/11/2010 11:55:42 AM 1265 Views
Re: Do we have his reaction to the Heroes themselves? - 30/11/2010 12:05:44 PM 1126 Views
he makes no mention of the Heroes. - 30/11/2010 10:42:13 PM 1238 Views
They did get another thing right - 29/11/2010 12:40:52 AM 1232 Views
Not Mat's fault, really - Verin didn't rehash her opinion of him. - 29/11/2010 02:18:17 AM 1191 Views
It's the WOT Red Shirt syndrome - 29/11/2010 04:29:12 AM 1320 Views
I don't want everyone to win and end up happily ever after though. - 29/11/2010 04:33:06 AM 1214 Views
The disney ending is not realistic - or at least not as believable - 29/11/2010 04:41:04 AM 1336 Views
You, good sir, are - 30/11/2010 06:53:49 PM 1121 Views
I also think Lan will be saved right before the end. - 29/11/2010 06:50:34 PM 1098 Views
Re: I also think Lan will be saved right before the end. - 30/11/2010 01:47:27 AM 1228 Views
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+1 *NM* - 29/11/2010 07:18:13 PM 661 Views
it is. I love it anyways, though - 29/11/2010 07:23:24 PM 1126 Views
War and Peace was very thematic - 30/11/2010 05:00:30 AM 1558 Views
Doublethink for the win! *NM* - 30/11/2010 07:35:20 AM 690 Views
Re: War and Peace was very thematic - 30/11/2010 09:35:50 AM 1184 Views
I'm not really sure if or why any reader would need to suspend disbelief to enjoy WoT - 30/11/2010 10:31:49 PM 1174 Views
Please tell me what drugs you're on - 01/12/2010 04:04:39 AM 1275 Views
It's called 'reality' - I agree with LadyLorraine & Moratcorlm - 01/12/2010 07:57:35 PM 1190 Views
You are absolutely wrong. - 02/12/2010 04:53:52 AM 1161 Views
You are incorrect - you should read the definition you reference before posting it. - 02/12/2010 04:19:16 PM 1278 Views
No, I read the ENTIRE article, unlike you. You have to scroll down a bit. - 02/12/2010 05:47:13 PM 1080 Views
No, you need to read and comprehend. That was a THEORY. - 02/12/2010 07:11:01 PM 993 Views
It's really very simple. - 04/12/2010 12:31:16 AM 1299 Views
mk, I think I understand more what you meant now after reading this exchange - 05/12/2010 05:42:47 AM 1200 Views
I still don't agree; sorry. I don't think this theory applies to everyone. - 06/12/2010 05:30:41 PM 1294 Views
No, those are disbeliefs that you must suspend. - 01/12/2010 08:18:25 PM 1100 Views
You have to feel the characters are somehow believable to empathize with them. - 02/12/2010 01:05:29 AM 1144 Views
I don't see how WoT's writing (Before, or now) prevents that - 02/12/2010 04:12:54 AM 1007 Views
I'm not arguing that it necessarily does for everyone, just that YOU HAVE TO SUSPEND DISBELIEF - 02/12/2010 04:48:51 AM 1196 Views
That's a load of crap... - 02/12/2010 06:03:13 AM 1335 Views
Sure - 01/12/2010 01:30:03 AM 1124 Views
Black Tower - 30/11/2010 01:50:29 AM 1113 Views
Re: Black Tower - 30/11/2010 01:57:48 AM 1245 Views
I agree with everything. - 30/11/2010 01:37:11 PM 1409 Views
Hopper's death... oh god... - 01/12/2010 01:00:12 AM 1355 Views
while i miss hopper - 02/12/2010 04:19:28 AM 1148 Views
Re: while i miss hopper - 02/12/2010 05:30:52 PM 1249 Views
Hopper wasn't that important, either, though. - 03/12/2010 02:32:10 PM 1056 Views
Re: Hopper wasn't that important, either, though. - 03/12/2010 03:10:54 PM 1100 Views
It would be awesome if it were, though. - 03/12/2010 04:41:42 PM 1228 Views
Re: It would be awesome if it were, though. - 04/12/2010 09:54:09 PM 1205 Views
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