it may have been realistic from Tolstoy's point of view, but that does necessarily make the world Tolstoy built to behave in a certain way an accurate depiction of the real world.
As a comparison, a very large number of people would say that "Evil is meant to lose and lose badly here, while Good gets its' rewards." will be an accurate depction of reality at a certain time. It doesn't make them right.
It also doesn't make them wrong. But the point is that if you have trouble suspending disbelief because people do not suffer enough, or act strangely, or get supernatural assistance, or whatnot, the fault is generally yours and not that of the author. You can believe anything if you try.
As a comparison, a very large number of people would say that "Evil is meant to lose and lose badly here, while Good gets its' rewards." will be an accurate depction of reality at a certain time. It doesn't make them right.
It also doesn't make them wrong. But the point is that if you have trouble suspending disbelief because people do not suffer enough, or act strangely, or get supernatural assistance, or whatnot, the fault is generally yours and not that of the author. You can believe anything if you try.
Provisional calendar for Towers of Midnight: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0ApFWTyzG9G_UdHZCUjQzVGNLeUJyMkUycXkzQlExSFE&output=html
Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot...
28/11/2010 03:38:14 PM
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28/11/2010 04:05:48 PM
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Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot...
29/11/2010 12:27:27 AM
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Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot...
29/11/2010 12:36:49 AM
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Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot...
29/11/2010 01:59:18 AM
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Yes, she still lets herself be ruled by her desire to control everything
29/11/2010 02:39:34 AM
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I vote it has come to pass
29/11/2010 02:48:26 AM
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Re: I vote it has come to pass
29/11/2010 09:42:51 AM
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Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot...
28/11/2010 04:43:46 PM
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Re: Easy life of Lightside heroes and pathetic incompetence of the Shadow - so what's new in Wot...
28/11/2010 04:49:23 PM
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Indeed
28/11/2010 06:16:41 PM
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am i the only one who acknowledges that it's a jerk deal for jerks
28/11/2010 08:00:23 PM
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Re: am i the only one who acknowledges that it's a jerk deal for jerks
29/11/2010 06:40:18 PM
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And in the interest of fairness, SH should've been all up in Osangar's intimate business
29/11/2010 11:34:21 PM
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Agreed. The series is formulaic and predictable, and even I expected a few more twists.
28/11/2010 07:47:10 PM
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I'm sure that all the men Ituralde lost would agree with you about it being a breeze -_-
29/11/2010 12:32:56 AM
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Byar was compulsed
29/11/2010 12:46:01 AM
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Re: Byar was compulsed
29/11/2010 12:54:38 PM
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Re: Byar was compulsed
29/11/2010 12:59:31 PM
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Re: Byar was compulsed
29/11/2010 01:10:18 PM
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He disbelieves in the Heroes
29/11/2010 03:33:27 PM
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I think that's his mind deceiving itself
29/11/2010 07:19:05 PM
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I didn't say he was necessarily Compulsed
30/11/2010 07:40:51 AM
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Do we have his reaction to the Heroes themselves?
30/11/2010 11:55:42 AM
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They did get another thing right
29/11/2010 12:40:52 AM
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Not Mat's fault, really - Verin didn't rehash her opinion of him.
29/11/2010 02:18:17 AM
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It's the WOT Red Shirt syndrome
29/11/2010 04:29:12 AM
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I don't want everyone to win and end up happily ever after though.
29/11/2010 04:33:06 AM
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The disney ending is not realistic - or at least not as believable
29/11/2010 04:41:04 AM
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Re: The disney ending is not realistic - or at least not as believable
29/11/2010 09:50:26 AM
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It's a well told story with fun characters overall, but it's definitely not "War & Peace"
29/11/2010 06:33:12 PM
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War and Peace was very thematic
30/11/2010 05:00:30 AM
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Re: War and Peace was very thematic
30/11/2010 09:35:50 AM
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I'm not really sure if or why any reader would need to suspend disbelief to enjoy WoT
30/11/2010 10:31:49 PM
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I've always thought of this series (and fantasy in general) are a bit like Aesop's Fables
30/11/2010 10:44:09 PM
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Please tell me what drugs you're on
01/12/2010 04:04:39 AM
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It's called 'reality' - I agree with LadyLorraine & Moratcorlm
01/12/2010 07:57:35 PM
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You are absolutely wrong.
02/12/2010 04:53:52 AM
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You are incorrect - you should read the definition you reference before posting it.
02/12/2010 04:19:16 PM
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No, I read the ENTIRE article, unlike you. You have to scroll down a bit.
02/12/2010 05:47:13 PM
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No, you need to read and comprehend. That was a THEORY.
02/12/2010 07:11:01 PM
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It's really very simple.
04/12/2010 12:31:16 AM
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mk, I think I understand more what you meant now after reading this exchange
05/12/2010 05:42:47 AM
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I still don't agree; sorry. I don't think this theory applies to everyone.
06/12/2010 05:30:41 PM
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No, those are disbeliefs that you must suspend.
01/12/2010 08:18:25 PM
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You have to feel the characters are somehow believable to empathize with them.
02/12/2010 01:05:29 AM
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I don't see how WoT's writing (Before, or now) prevents that
02/12/2010 04:12:54 AM
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I'm not arguing that it necessarily does for everyone, just that YOU HAVE TO SUSPEND DISBELIEF
02/12/2010 04:48:51 AM
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Black Tower
30/11/2010 01:50:29 AM
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Re: Black Tower
30/11/2010 01:57:48 AM
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No, the worst case scenario is that the entire tower becomes 13+13'd and fights for the Shadow
30/11/2010 04:03:07 AM
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Hopper's death... oh god...
01/12/2010 01:00:12 AM
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while i miss hopper
02/12/2010 04:19:28 AM
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Re: while i miss hopper
02/12/2010 05:30:52 PM
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Hopper wasn't that important, either, though.
03/12/2010 02:32:10 PM
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