Um, this should be obvious - it doesn't matter if it was before or after
		Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 27/11/2010 11:03:36 PM
		
	
		
			
				Pre-epiphany, there were 2 paths for Rand.
1. Non-existence if he became evil
2. What we have now if he became good
Clearly the vision refers to the 2nd path. The obvious (bleedingly obvious, imo) implication is that Rand's epiphany has NO BEARING on the vision, other than ensuring that it will happen (as opposed to non-existence).
The message is chilling - even post-epiphany Rand is not enough to secure a good future for the world, at least not for the Aiel. As things currently stand, he is doomed to betray some of his closest allies. Aviendha has a chance to fix this, but we aren't sure how she might be able to do so, given that Rand is already going to bargain as hard as possible for peace with the Seanchan.
	1. Non-existence if he became evil
2. What we have now if he became good
Clearly the vision refers to the 2nd path. The obvious (bleedingly obvious, imo) implication is that Rand's epiphany has NO BEARING on the vision, other than ensuring that it will happen (as opposed to non-existence).
The message is chilling - even post-epiphany Rand is not enough to secure a good future for the world, at least not for the Aiel. As things currently stand, he is doomed to betray some of his closest allies. Aviendha has a chance to fix this, but we aren't sure how she might be able to do so, given that Rand is already going to bargain as hard as possible for peace with the Seanchan.
			The White Tower's future (spoilers)
	    
	         - 09/11/2010 08:51:06 AM
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			It won't happen. Aviendha's vision is inconsistent with existing prophecies. *NM*
	    
	         - 09/11/2010 09:18:42 AM
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			Could you elaborate?  Or generally sum up the prophecies you refer to? *NM*
	    
	         - 09/11/2010 09:25:29 AM
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			The Rhuidean Prophecy, mainly.
	    
	         - 09/11/2010 09:56:43 AM
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			That's a single interpretation of many possibilities.
	    
	         - 27/11/2010 11:06:29 PM
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			A remnant of a remnant implies small number, Aviendha's vision showed large numbers. *NM*
	    
	         - 28/11/2010 04:26:52 AM
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			We already know they're dead from the vision. Tuon is already dead 20 years after the LB
	    
	         - 09/11/2010 04:04:58 PM
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			Re: We already know they're dead from the vision. Tuon is already dead 20 years after the LB
	    
	         - 09/11/2010 04:50:52 PM
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			It all depends on when Aviendha goes through the columns.
	    
	         - 09/11/2010 06:46:49 PM
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			Now there's a simple question to ask Sanderson: when did Avi go through the 2. time. *NM*
	    
	         - 27/11/2010 10:15:31 PM
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			Um, this should be obvious - it doesn't matter if it was before or after
		
	         - 27/11/2010 11:03:36 PM
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